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Rumor Has it. No Ohio Baiting

matthewusmc8791

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wow, sorry Jack, Big and Hicks. I just caught up reading my thread.. WOW.. I see there are many that have strong positions and definitions of baiting... I will keep watching the DNR site for topic.. I do agree with some, if CWD spreads throughout the south, I can see it getting outlawed..

Anyways. thanks to all who posted some good comments.
 

Jackalope

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wow, sorry Jack, Big and Hicks. I just caught up reading my thread.. WOW.. I see there are many that have strong positions and definitions of baiting... I will keep watching the DNR site for topic.. I do agree with some, if CWD spreads throughout the south, I can see it getting outlawed..

Anyways. thanks to all who posted some good comments.

Not your fault. No apologies needed. We open this can of worms once or twice a year. It's always a good time.
 

hickslawns

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wow, sorry Jack, Big and Hicks. I just caught up reading my thread.. WOW.. I see there are many that have strong positions and definitions of baiting... I will keep watching the DNR site for topic.. I do agree with some, if CWD spreads throughout the south, I can see it getting outlawed..

Anyways. thanks to all who posted some good comments.
No worries here. I seriously don't care if you bait. I knew this conversation was about to turn 25 different directions when I saw it posted. Lol
 

Jackalope

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Jackalope

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What if…I hit one with my truck, and it was going to bait and from bait at the same time?!

Nope. Because while the animal was being enticed by bait. You were not taking advantage if that enticement to your advantage. So no. That is not baiting.

It's a simple two part equation buddy. If the answer is yes to both below, you're baiting.

1. Is the animal being enticed by an item (bait)

2. Are you as a predator taking advantage of that animals enticement. (Baiting).
 

Jackalope

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So if I was trying to hit a deer, it would be yes.

If you were trying to hit a deer that was being enticed thus making it easier for you to hit him. Yes. The weapon you kill a deer with doesn't have any impact on if it was baited or not.
 

giles

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But using your way of thinking, deer are always enticed to move. Its the taking advantage of it that makes it baiting? But it's natural movement otherwise? How does that make any sense?
 

hickslawns

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What would Brock say? "Deer are the most random creatures out there." I concur. Therefore, we aren't baiting if they are going to or from somewhere because they probably have no clue where they are going.
 

Jackalope

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But using your way of thinking, deer are always enticed to move. Its the taking advantage of it that makes it baiting? But it's natural movement otherwise? How does that make any sense?

1. Is the animal being enticed by an item (bait)

2. Are you as a predator taking advantage of that animals enticement.

"Always" is an absolute and we should never deal in absolutes when talking about what motivates a deer to do something. They aren't always enticed to move. We can't pretend to know why a deer moves each and every time. I think sometimes they just wander around aimlessly, especially at night. I've gotten a pics the same night of the same buck miles apart at different salt blocks. It's a no brainer the salt enticed that deer to go to that first location. The question is what enticed him to go visit the other location. Could also be salt. But he had salt where he was. Obviously something enticed him to go there but what. We can't answer that question. The reality is he could have just been bumble fugging around.
 

finelyshedded

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I think that doe over by the other salt block was tighter than the ones by the first block.

rotflmao

I'd say more than likely it was the bucks nose and his desire to breed as many does under the cover of darkness when it's the safest that he showed up at both salt blocks that night! He's just like a horny man bar hopping! :smiley_crocodile:
 

Palmatedbuck04

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Should make gun season buck and doe the first day and buck only the rest of the week


If you need a cornpile to shoot a deer,you probably need to sit down to pee also....