What if?
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Question then, would all this transfer to humans as well? Some big conspiracy to reduce human breeding???? Big brother taking population control into their own hands???? I'm going for the tin foil now....
GMO in itself is not a conspiracy. It's human ingenuity at its finest. Problem with us being so smart is we rarely test our technological outcomes long enough, or with a broad enough spectrum. If you guys want an education on GMO and how it got so big, why and what's it's doing to us, I'd be happy to provide that. I've read a good 10K pages on the matter in the last 2 years and it's scary. I don't believe it was a hidden agenda, but rather a hasty implementation in to a system that was pulling farmers and consumers in to a vicious cycle of cheaply produced and sold foods.
5 years ago I was getting re certified for gradin g grain. The instructor, who had worked in grain his whole life, was hinting at his distrust of GMO's. Afterwards we had time to kill, so we got in depth a little. He had changed his whole diet to exclude GMO's. He got a little tin foil hat when he said it's very possible that GMO's could wipe out humanity. One thing I agreed with him was that one company, Monsanto, shouldn't have that much control over the world's food.
One thing I will throw out there. A few years ago Monsanto came out with a new bean called Vistive Gold. My Elevator was one of 3 in the country that Monsanto designated to accept them. It was the only year we ever had them. I worked the pit that accepted them most of the fall. That was the fall when i started getting sick and developed a lung disease that the Dr's could not figure out what caused the original infection that was so bad as to leave my lungs scarred like they did. No way we will ever know, but when I mentioned that to my Pulmonologist, who is one of the world's best, he raised an eyebrow and said "Wow".
Elites have been calling for this for years.
http://www.vaccines.news/2016-02-18...es-vaccines-could-lower-world-population.html
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/30...lieve-that-humans-are-a-plague-upon-the-earth
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88% of us corn crops are GMO. 93% of soybeans.
Nature requires diversity. When most people talk about GMO's wiping out the population they're primarily talking about starvation. The concern is that it would take one fungus, one virus, one insect to wipe out vast amounts of food. Since the agricultural revolution man's dependency on grains has gone through the roof, I forget the stats but we are eating exponentially more grain then we have in our entire human existence. The human population as it sits is currently heavily dependent upon grain for survival. The concern is that a single virus couldn't infect that grain crop due to it all being genetically similar.
Florida orange growers are fighting a tremendous battle right now, one they will inevitably lose. An invasive beetle from Asia is destroying the orange groves, but not in a manner in which you would think. This beetle eats the leaves of the tree and in doing so infects the tree with what they believe is a virus. It doesn't kill the tree but the oranges are for smaller, less juicy, and do not fully ripen. On 60 minutes a few weeks ago they said that the Florida orange juice production has dropped 30% in just a couple years due to this. If this happened to grain there would be worldwide starvation and millions if not hundreds of millions of people would starve. We can't make up for 30% loss in the worlds food supply in two years via substitution. This is because green is connected to the vast majority of our food animal feed, processed packaged foods, right down to the pop we drink all use a grain product.
Now Monsanto would argue that GMO's are great because it allows us to genetically modify resistant strains of grain. Who's is true. But that is only for known issues. It does not protect us against mother nature cooking up some shit that destroys 75% of the worlds grain supply in one season however. But it's nice to know the remaining population will have a grain product that is resistant to the fungus that killed most of the world.
Nature requires diversity. When most people talk about GMO's wiping out the population they're primarily talking about starvation. The concern is that it would take one fungus, one virus, one insect to wipe out vast amounts of food. Since the agricultural revolution man's dependency on grains has gone through the roof, I forget the stats but we are eating exponentially more grain then we have in our entire human existence. The human population as it sits is currently heavily dependent upon grain for survival. The concern is that a single virus couldn't infect that grain crop due to it all being genetically similar.
Florida orange growers are fighting a tremendous battle right now, one they will inevitably lose. An invasive beetle from Asia is destroying the orange groves, but not in a manner in which you would think. This beetle eats the leaves of the tree and in doing so infects the tree with what they believe is a virus. It doesn't kill the tree but the oranges are for smaller, less juicy, and do not fully ripen. On 60 minutes a few weeks ago they said that the Florida orange juice production has dropped 30% in just a couple years due to this. If this happened to grain there would be worldwide starvation and millions if not hundreds of millions of people would starve. We can't make up for 30% loss in the worlds food supply in two years via substitution. This is because green is connected to the vast majority of our food animal feed, processed packaged foods, right down to the pop we drink all use a grain product.
Now Monsanto would argue that GMO's are great because it allows us to genetically modify resistant strains of grain. Who's is true. But that is only for known issues. It does not protect us against mother nature cooking up some shit that destroys 75% of the worlds grain supply in one season however. But it's nice to know the remaining population will have a grain product that is resistant to the fungus that killed most of the world.
Gordo
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bthompson1004
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IF the GMO's were creating fertility problems/sterilizations, wouldn't farmers have trouble reproducing livestock?
Don't they eat feed made from the same crops the deer eat?
Don't they eat feed made from the same crops the deer eat?
Most breeding is done now artificially...so I don't feel like this is a fair apples to apples view into it.
You are taking the best of the best stock and reproducing with those. The prized male with the best cum in the state isn't eating what all the others are either.
I am the same way and wonder if they do not want game like deer around for us to consume so we have to rely on what they give us and or sell (containing who knows what). Do yourselves a favor and google the Georgia guide stones and depopulation.
I have often wondered if fertilizers could play a part in reproduction on wildlife. Look at the algae blooms on our waterways over the last decade or so. It is known that high levels of nitrogen and phosphorus can be harmful on the body, and with all that bacteria in the water, I can't help but think it plays a part in some of the diseases we hear deer are dying from now. It also makes me wonder if a decrease in reproduction could be a side effect to consuming water high in algae.
at1010
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The issue I have with this
1. Iowa seems to be thriving with deer. They have more rr crops then Ohio. Wouldn't the states with even more crops have even lower numbers? The animals would have such high levels of exposure vs. other deer.
Idk I think it's good to think outside box. Not sure I'm fully buying into this one.
1. Iowa seems to be thriving with deer. They have more rr crops then Ohio. Wouldn't the states with even more crops have even lower numbers? The animals would have such high levels of exposure vs. other deer.
Idk I think it's good to think outside box. Not sure I'm fully buying into this one.
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Where do u get that Iowa is thriving? There are complaints coming from residents of Iowa as well. Comparing Iowa and Ohio is a plea and oranges, doesn't work. There are more people in Cleveland Ohio than there is the entire state of Iowa. They have far more liberal bag limits than Ohio, yet kill far fewer deer - due to far fewer hunters. There is no comparison to be made.
Just look at the increases in things like autism, asthma, auto-immune diseases, etc. Those are just the A's and there's a whole alphabet to go. Heck just jump to C and you'll find cancer, or D for diabetes. Go back 30 to 40 years. You didn't have the high volume of these diseases and disorders. Why? Think about how and what people ate. GMO's aren't 100% to blame, but overall our food system is a really scary thing to start investigating and wondering what it is doing to us.
Anyway, back to deer...