Deer Management Stakeholder Organization.
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The tradition of hunting for me is one of a family-centric outdoor activity that provided an opportunity for camaraderie, laughs, learning and if all went well, a source of truly "free range organic" meat. Tradition on our family meant assembling at the family farm on Sunday before gun season to sight in guns, eat, laugh and enjoy time as a family. Opening day of gun season meant sitting until 10, driving, eating lunch, driving, sitting until dark. We gutted, drug and butchered as a family unit. It had everything to do with having fun outside with family and as Joe stated, has nothing to do with deer numbers, so the relevance of this question to the very real problem you are supposed to be helping address Brent, is lost on me. It's a nice feel good conversation for writing an article in NAW, but satisfies very little in regards to the current population issue here in Ohio.
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I think it serves half of the agenda quite well Jesse. The half of the agenda that wants to paint the decimation of numbers as something that is okay because hunting is about tradition not actually having deer. It's a question framed to tug at the Heartstrings. Simple propaganda that Joseph Goebbels himself would be proud of.
And to clarify no I'm not saying bawana is in any way compared to Joseph Goebbels. He is simply the messenger. I'm saying the design of the question is intended to frame propaganda.
Hortontoter
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I may be one of the few that doesn't care much for the tradition of deer camp. I spent one night at a deer camp in West Virginia in the mid 70's. Arrived on Sunday morning to hunt the rifle opener. 17 of us in a single wide mobile home. We watched a football game in the afternoon and that's where things started to get a little out of hand. A few of the guys had been drinking and were starting to get a bit feisty. By about dark the beer and testosterone were really flowing. Two guys ended up in a fist fight over nothing, which was quickly broken up by others.
The drinking carried on most of the night and only five of us were able to actually hunt the next morning. The other 12 didn't make it out of the mobile home. I'm sure this isn't the norm, but it was my only deer camp experience. I've always been serious about my hunting, so deer camp just wasn't my cup of tea.
I prefer to hunt alone or with one other person. Party hunting just doesn't trip my trigger.
Some of the traditions, such as the check stations, I do miss.
I really see nothing wrong with asking some of the questions in cspot's attachment. To some hunters size does matter. Just because a guy wants to shoot a buck that reaches his requirements doesn't mean he wants to be the next deer hunting Bonecollector. No need to crucify each other because our ways of hunting are different from one another. Let's just hunt.
The drinking carried on most of the night and only five of us were able to actually hunt the next morning. The other 12 didn't make it out of the mobile home. I'm sure this isn't the norm, but it was my only deer camp experience. I've always been serious about my hunting, so deer camp just wasn't my cup of tea.
I prefer to hunt alone or with one other person. Party hunting just doesn't trip my trigger.
Some of the traditions, such as the check stations, I do miss.
I really see nothing wrong with asking some of the questions in cspot's attachment. To some hunters size does matter. Just because a guy wants to shoot a buck that reaches his requirements doesn't mean he wants to be the next deer hunting Bonecollector. No need to crucify each other because our ways of hunting are different from one another. Let's just hunt.
I started deer hunting in 1965. I have never been in a hunting camp-hunting group that I really enjoyed.
I'm a serious deer hunter and hunt before sunup and hunt until after sunset. Never hunted with another hunter who would do the same.
All the other hunters in the group partied hard and late into the night. Almost all of them couldn't hunt in the early morning or couldn't stay out over 3-4 hours. Then into camp for lunch, maybe go out in mid afternoon and be back in camp before dark. Always missed the prime hunting times.
I guess I'm a loner and prefer to hunt by myself and hunt all day with the phone shutoff.
Let the other hunters party at another time but not in hunting camp. Chill out and relax and forget the outside world. But 99% of the hunters can't do it.
Back in the good old days life was slower and simple, no cell phones and people knew how to intertain themselves. I still can and enjoy it.
I'm a serious deer hunter and hunt before sunup and hunt until after sunset. Never hunted with another hunter who would do the same.
All the other hunters in the group partied hard and late into the night. Almost all of them couldn't hunt in the early morning or couldn't stay out over 3-4 hours. Then into camp for lunch, maybe go out in mid afternoon and be back in camp before dark. Always missed the prime hunting times.
I guess I'm a loner and prefer to hunt by myself and hunt all day with the phone shutoff.
Let the other hunters party at another time but not in hunting camp. Chill out and relax and forget the outside world. But 99% of the hunters can't do it.
Back in the good old days life was slower and simple, no cell phones and people knew how to intertain themselves. I still can and enjoy it.
Never did the party stuff either, our group always hunted hard start to finish but now most everyone just bowhunts,a few still gun hunt but hunt hard.
One thing we do enjoy is getting kids involved,still have some property owners that dont mind us bringing kids out to hunt.
Hard to find that in todays world seems alot could care less about a kid getting a chance to get their first turkey or deer.
One thing we do enjoy is getting kids involved,still have some property owners that dont mind us bringing kids out to hunt.
Hard to find that in todays world seems alot could care less about a kid getting a chance to get their first turkey or deer.
X2, some people are too concerned about the possibility of them messing up the property and spooking "their deer" off. Kinda selfish if you ask me. I've taken a few buddies out, and one kid to try and get them on their first buck or turkey.
Iowa_Buckeye
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Difference is in 1980 you were happy to see a deer, let alone get one.
'Traditions' are always different between people.
'Traditions' are always different between people.
cspot
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I agree. I would also add that eventually you are just hanging out with a bunch of friends and family while carrying around a bow/gun instead of deer hunting if you don't have a good deer population. Most of the memories told about years past were about successful hunts or missed opportunities. I don't recall very many "memorable" memories about days when no deer were seen.
cspot
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Absolutely. The future generations of hunters, the ones to carry on the "traditions" don't want to sit in a blind staring at leaves listening to stories about how we used to actually see deer.
We need a list of organizations within that group broken down by
1. Who wants to see more deer.
2. Who wants to see less deer.
3. Who thinks the numbers are okay now.
Until that is established and made known it is nothing more than a pud yanking circle-jerk of little value to sportsmen.
We need a list of organizations within that group broken down by
1. Who wants to see more deer.
2. Who wants to see less deer.
3. Who thinks the numbers are okay now.
Until that is established and made known it is nothing more than a pud yanking circle-jerk of little value to sportsmen.
cspot
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PA had something similar and I think still does, and it is of little value. Pretty much a waste of time.
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