Proposed Deer Seasons and bag limits

[Lundy]

I get it but 2018 is only one day different than 2017, two days different than 2016

 

[Redhunter1012]

I think it"ll keep an honest guy honest. Those who dont care will still tag deer for wherever they want. Im fairly certain quite a few hunters in my area tag deer in for counties other than where they are shot. But you cant regulate based on what the few idiots will do. I do think it will help you guys out with lots of public land near you

 

[giles]

I get it but 2018 is only one day different than 2017, two days different than 2016

I was excited those years TOO! Gets me all happy when it falls early, means my kids get a chance at seeing some action during youth season as well. That week makes all the difference in this household. And anything that makes a sportsman happy these days is a win in my book.

 

[Bigcountry40]

I was excited those years TOO! Gets me all happy when it falls early, means my kids get a chance at seeing some action during youth season as well. That week makes all the difference in this household. And anything that makes a sportsman happy these days is a win in my book.

Youth gun season is literally during some of the best action in Ohio :horse::smiley_cooking:

 

[giles]

Youth gun season is literally during some of the best action in Ohio :horse::smiley_cooking:

Yes sir! Good for them.

 

[RedCloud]

Youth gun season is literally during some of the best action in Ohio :horse::smiley_cooking:

Give the youth the best days. If we don't do something about the youth getting excitement and enjoyment out of the hunting season then this will be the end to a tradition. If a grown adult gets sick of looking at leaves and squirrels imagine kids trying to sit there day after day seeing nothing. Give them a few days of seeing nothing and fighting the weather and they WILL NOT go at all.

 

[Schu72]

Give the youth the best days. If we don't do something about the youth getting excitement and enjoyment out of the hunting season then this will be the end to a tradition. If a grown adult gets sick of looking at leaves and squirrels imagine kids trying to sit there day after day seeing nothing. Give them a few days of seeing nothing and fighting the weather and they WILL NOT go at all.

I'm with ya! I gladly forego one weekend a year to keep the kids interested. I'd hate to see them move it to the October lull like they've proposed a few times.

 

[giles]

I'm with ya! I gladly forego one weekend a year to keep the kids interested. I'd hate to see them move it to the October lull like they've proposed a few times.

Is that for real? Why in the word would they do that?!

 

[Quantum673]

Is that for real? Why in the word would they do that?!

I remember several years ago they proposed that saying the milder weather would make it more appealing to the youth.

 

[Bigcountry40]

I'm with ya! I gladly forego one weekend a year to keep the kids interested. I'd hate to see them move it to the October lull like they've proposed a few times.

I am going regret this and look like a complete ass hole but I can't help myself. I would say majority of the current too members grew up with very shaky deer hunting and no youth season correct ? it seems like we all turned out to love it, I think it probably made it even more rewarding when I missed my first 5 deer and then finally got one. I don't know if I am wired different or if its being a teacher and I'm around youth very single day that has made me this way, but constant gratification and catering to youth to make sure its non stop entertainment is that the answer? Studies have been done that kids typically pick up hobbies for like 4 to 5 years then they burn out move on to something else, if they stick with it longer than that, its considered a passion or a love. This research is basically universal among all sports, hobbies, etc. Personally I don't think youth season being in prime time November will make a difference if a kid stays with it as lifer or not. Okay ya'll can hang me from a tree now.

 

[giles]

I am going regret this and look like a complete ass hole but I can't help myself. I would say majority of the current too members grew up with very shaky deer hunting and no youth season correct ? it seems like we all turned out to love it, I think it probably made it even more rewarding when I missed my first 5 deer and then finally got one. I don't know if I am wired different or if its being a teacher and I'm around youth very single day that has made me this way, but constant gratification and catering to youth to make sure its non stop entertainment is that the answer? Studies have been done that kids typically pick up hobbies for like 4 to 5 years then they burn out move on to something else, if they stick with it longer than that, its considered a passion or a love. This research is basically universal among all sports, hobbies, etc. Personally I don't think youth season being in prime time November will make a difference if a kid stays with it as lifer or not. Okay ya'll can hang me from a tree now.

No ones going to hang you for having an opinion and beliefs. I ain’t anyways.

Plus, you backed it with research.

I enjoy taking my kids during prime time, the gun in hand helps confidence.

 

[Quantum673]

I am going regret this and look like a complete ass hole but I can't help myself. I would say majority of the current too members grew up with very shaky deer hunting and no youth season correct ? it seems like we all turned out to love it, I think it probably made it even more rewarding when I missed my first 5 deer and then finally got one. I don't know if I am wired different or if its being a teacher and I'm around youth very single day that has made me this way, but constant gratification and catering to youth to make sure its non stop entertainment is that the answer? Studies have been done that kids typically pick up hobbies for like 4 to 5 years then they burn out move on to something else, if they stick with it longer than that, its considered a passion or a love. This research is basically universal among all sports, hobbies, etc. Personally I don't think youth season being in prime time November will make a difference if a kid stays with it as lifer or not. Okay ya'll can hang me from a tree now.

Definitely not going to hang you from a tree. Different perspectives are good as far as I am concerned.

When I started taking my son out it was all about him and I spending the weekend together. Wouldn't have mattered to me what weekend it was. Just a great excuse for us to not worry about anything else just us out in the woods. I only remember us seeing deer one time in 4-5 years of youth hunts. It was on a good trot.

I will say that as a general rule they are a lot more apt to want to try again if they at least see something. That's just my opinion though.

 

[RedCloud]

I am going regret this and look like a complete ass hole but I can't help myself. I would say majority of the current too members grew up with very shaky deer hunting and no youth season correct ? it seems like we all turned out to love it, I think it probably made it even more rewarding when I missed my first 5 deer and then finally got one. I don't know if I am wired different or if its being a teacher and I'm around youth very single day that has made me this way, but constant gratification and catering to youth to make sure its non stop entertainment is that the answer? Studies have been done that kids typically pick up hobbies for like 4 to 5 years then they burn out move on to something else, if they stick with it longer than that, its considered a passion or a love. This research is basically universal among all sports, hobbies, etc. Personally I don't think youth season being in prime time November will make a difference if a kid stays with it as lifer or not. Okay ya'll can hang me from a tree now.

In my reasoning it has to do with action. I mean I still get like a little school kid when I see a buck chasing a doe or running after another buck and have a scrap in the woods. It doesn't matter to me if I get a chance at a shot or not and I don't think the kids would either. Add in the safety of not having a bunch of others out just flinging lead at anything that moves. Add in the fact that they get first crack at a deer that hasn't been shot at with a gun all season yet. Heck, most of the deer on my hunting grounds after the first couple days of regular gun season crawl in a hole and don't come out until after dark lol.

 

[reo]

Myself and almost all the others I hunt with except for a couple, came to love deer hunting mainly because the odds of seeing deer were much better than today. Conversely, I know of several younger hunters that gave up because of not seeing shit including when they carried a gun during youth season.
IMO, the best way to get hunters "hooked" is if they at least see deer.

 

[giles]

Myself and almost all the others I hunt with except for a couple, came to love deer hunting mainly because the odds of seeing deer were much better than today. Conversely, I know of several younger hunters that gave up because of not seeing shit including when they carried a gun during youth season.
IMO, the best way to get hunters "hooked" is if they at least see deer.

It also helps the adult want to take a youth if it’s prime time with a gun.

 

[mercercountyhunter]

I don’t think youth should be any earlier especially if they will allow deer drives during that weekend. If you want to show kids the thrill of the rut then take them out with a bow during that time. Heck deer rut the whole month of November. Just my opinion and I’m just not a fan of youth shooting at moving targets on deer drives. I’ve seen the aftermath of it. And I know it happens to adults too. Maybe it’s just my area of the flatlands that it happens a lot in.
And I also have a 7 year old that took her crossbow out this year. No gun for her yet. And she missed a buck but was excited to see the buck chase and breed a doe and almost fight another buck. The look on her face was better than me killing my biggest buck of the year.

 

[Bigslam51]

http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/stay-informed/proposed-rule-changes-csi-review

 

[Bigcountry40]

http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/stay-informed/proposed-rule-changes-csi-review

I see that Woodbury camping rules are changing again, Looks like people can camp there september - the end of turkey season. I knew a small group were pushing hard for it, I personally thought it would go the other way and get shut down altogether (hell of a party)

 

[Maxxis31]

If i read correctly that on public land buck's can only be harvested after Dec 2nd will truly slow down the amount of non resident hunters coming to the state to hunt, may not be a bad thing to grow population on public land.

 

[Jackalope]

If i read correctly that on public land buck's can only be harvested after Dec 2nd will truly slow down the amount of non resident hunters coming to the state to hunt, may not be a bad thing to grow population on public land.

I posted the below to Giles yesterday on another thread. Be careful in assuming this is intended to "grow" the population, despite how the DOW sells it

You're assuming this will result in an effect of people seeing more deer on public land. I.e the numbers will grow. If you have half the number of deer you once did it would stand to reason that you only need half a season to maintain that.

If i had 100 rabbits that produced 100 offspring per year, it would stand to reason that i could have 100 rabbit dinners a year and maintain my rabbit population. If i only eat 100 per year i will always have 100 rabbit dinners every year thereafter.

But lets say I eat an extra 10% each year. The first year i eat 110 rabbits. This only leaves me 90 to start next year and they produce 90. So i start the year with only 180. Say i maintain my extra 10% consumption and eat 99 rabbit dinners the next year.

It would only take 5 years for me to be down to only having 50 rabbits that produce another 50 per year. So 100 total. Half of what i started with just 5 years ago. In the beginning if i ate 100 per year i could have maintained 100 rabbit dinners per year forever. But now i can only have 50 rabbit dinners per year if i want to maintain my 50 rabbit population.

Just because they cut in half how many dinners can be had, doesn't mean the rabbit population is going to regrow. It just means there are less to be had, and thus less should be killed to maintain it.