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Fletch

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Damn. Scary. Makes one wonder how off the mark the confirmed case numbers are. IMO there pretty worthless.
Now that I think about... Back in Dec. when I had a fever pushing 104 they took a cotton swab and stuck it way up my nose twice... What were they checking for??? Makes you wonder??? Did they know something back then..
 

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Now that I think about... Back in Dec. when I had a fever pushing 104 they took a cotton swab and stuck it way up my nose twice... What were they checking for??? Makes you wonder??? Did they know something back then..

Quite possibly the flu. They should have record of it.
 

Fletch

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Quite possibly the flu. They should have record of it.
Yeh... Someone else said that also... Doesn't matter I'm over that hurdle and that's all that counts... Was supposed to go for a follow up test,but no way I'm I going in a same day surgery clinic now... Hell my pecker is happy as hell currently with no one sticking a tube up it...:ROFLMAO:
 

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So about 8 times more deadly than the flu, at least in New York State? Still high, but better than 30x. The median age in NY State & NYC is 38.2 and 35.8 respectively; the younger population might explain some of it.

edit... I guess that also depends on what the average flu death rate is in those areas too.. IDK. These numbers and all the variables make my head spin.
But didn’t I see where like 3-4 thousand deaths were added to have been linked to Covid without even really testing for it to be sure? It was back when the death toll supposedly broke the 10K threshold I believe. If I’m wrong then I apologize but if this is correct then those data numbers are incorrect or flawed as well. Just sayin.
 
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bowhunter1023

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My wife is working from home doing contact tracing for Employee Health when she's not doing her normal job as a cath lab nurse. They've seen a spike in false positives this week. As a county, 0.12% of our population has been confirmed positive. Of the 75 confirmed positives, 18 came from one nursing home and all are believed to have been infected by the same person. So our "free range" positive percentage is 0.09%. Because I'm privy to inside baseball, right now, it's believed that not one person has contracted this in a retail setting.

I was in a meeting today where there was special precautions taken to assembled 11 people for a "mission critical" meeting and afterwards, I walked outside to see 4 of those people standing around the same phone looking at pics. I went to the local gun store, packed. Lowes, packed. Kroger, packed. Tractor Supply, packed. People around here are "kinda" staying home and yet, only 0.09% of our county has contracted this via community transmission. If it weren't for the outlier deaths and strange, varied effects, I'd be on the conspiracy bandwagon. It's the real cases that have maintained my respect this far.
 
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finelyshedded

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Here’s some info about it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc.amp.html

Photo shot from the section I was referring
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Blan37

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But didn’t I see where like 3-4 thousand deaths were added to have been linked to Covid without even really testing for it to be sure? It was back when the death toll supposedly broke the 10K threshold I believe. If I’m wrong then I apologize but if this is correct then those data numbers are incorrect or flawed as well. Just sayin.
I'm not sure. I was just doing some numbers off of Joe's post. I watched a video of an ER doc in NY who was explaining that one of the ways they determine if it's COVID or not is by process of elimination. They test for flu and some other things they can test for and then if those are negative and the patient has COVID symptoms, then they are assumed to be positive. But who knows what the real numbers are...
 
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Blan37

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Here's the doc/vid I was talking about set to play at 107 seconds in. It's a good one to watch all the way from the beginning if you have time. I guess this was Chicago, not NY:

 
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Jackalope

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I'm not sure. I was just doing some numbers off of Joe's post. I watched a video of an ER doc in NY who was explaining that one of the ways they determine if it's COVID or not is by process of elimination. They test for flu and some other things they can test for and then if those are negative and the patient has COVID symptoms, then they are assumed to be positive. But who knows what the real numbers are...


There are rather strict guidelines around the presumptive death stats. I read them once and they made sense. Basically patients with classic symptoms who have either had close contact with an infected person, or there's no other reasonable diagnosis can be counted as a provisional death. While included in the overall numbers, those deaths are being tracked independently also and compared to historical pneumonia and flu death averages to make sure flu and pneumonia don't sway from their averages and show a spike in covid. If that happens they know the covid numbers are inflated. And the same for flu and pneumonia deaths. For example Fletches buddy's wife, if heaven forbid she was to get sick and pass she would be counted as a provisional death despite never being tested. The biggest numbers that aren't being counted are the nursing home and deaths at home. A large number of states are actively hiding how devastating this has been to the elderly in nursing home's.
 

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Here's the doc/vid I was talking about set to play at 107 seconds in. It's a good one to watch all the way from the beginning if you have time. I guess this was Chicago, not NY:


Crazy. One thing that struck me when the doctor spoke of masks. He said "I feel like the government let us down".. Hold on buddy. You work for a private for profit hospital. Your employer, who was well aware of this risk for years, is the one who let you down. They decided that sustaining profits was more important than being prepared. To further that, many of these doctors work for contracted staffing agencies and not the hospital itself. If the hospital was nationalized by the state or feds, and he was drafted into service, then he could complain that the government didn't provide adequate PPE. Until then, his for profit hospital employer is who let him down.
 

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While watching GMA this morning and seeing the coverage of opening of some places in Georgia, it is hard to believe that basic American freedoms are now viewed as politically incorrect. If people want to go get a haircut or go bowling, let em. It’s their choice to take the risk. They ain’t gonna give it to you or your grandma if you are home hiding under the couch.
 
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bowhunter1023

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Other than the small, local businesses forced to shut down, there's no sign of a quarantine in Washington County. Today, Dollar General, Kroger, local greenhouse/market, and the local gas station/deli/beer store, all packed. TP is restocked, but people are panic buying tomato plants. Other than people wearing masks and gloves, people are clearly ready to move on with whatever the associated risks may be.