2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)
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It sucks big holla- the 4 of us at home are just getting over it. The 2 that didnt get it are at college Wife and 2 daughters are good now. I havent been sick in years and i cant shake this shit. Last weekend was the worst, constantly cold, fevers at night, now got a headache from congestion good luck, hope you have a quick recovery.
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Big Holla and anyone else that may have it, wishing you a speedy and full recovery from the virus.... Those that don't have it PLEASE BE CAREFUL....
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Tell us something we don't know.
Landmark Danish study shows face masks have no significant effect
Do face masks work? Earlier this year, the UK government decided that masks could play a significant role in stopping Covid-19 and made masks mandatory in a number of public places. But are these policies backed by the scientific evidence?
Yesterday marked the publication of a long-delayed trial in Denmark which hopes to answer that very question. The ‘Danmask-19 trial’ was conducted in the spring with over 3,000 participants, when the public were not being told to wear masks but other public health measures were in place. Unlike other studies looking at masks, the Danmask study was a randomised controlled trial – making it the highest quality scientific evidence.
Around half of those in the trial received 50 disposable surgical face masks, which they were told to change after eight hours of use. After one month, the trial participants were tested using both PCR, antibody and lateral flow tests and compared with the trial participants who did not wear a mask.
In the end, there was no statistically significant difference between those who wore masks and those who did not when it came to being infected by Covid-19. 1.8 per cent of those wearing masks caught Covid, compared to 2.1 per cent of the control group. As a result, it seems that any effect masks have on preventing the spread of the disease in the community is small.
Some people, of course, did not wear their masks properly. Only 46 per cent of those wearing masks in the trial said they had completely adhered to the rules. But even if you only look at people who wore masks ‘exactly as instructed’, this did not make any difference to the results: 2 per cent of this group were also infected.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-
Landmark Danish study shows face masks have no significant effect
Do face masks work? Earlier this year, the UK government decided that masks could play a significant role in stopping Covid-19 and made masks mandatory in a number of public places. But are these policies backed by the scientific evidence?
Yesterday marked the publication of a long-delayed trial in Denmark which hopes to answer that very question. The ‘Danmask-19 trial’ was conducted in the spring with over 3,000 participants, when the public were not being told to wear masks but other public health measures were in place. Unlike other studies looking at masks, the Danmask study was a randomised controlled trial – making it the highest quality scientific evidence.
Around half of those in the trial received 50 disposable surgical face masks, which they were told to change after eight hours of use. After one month, the trial participants were tested using both PCR, antibody and lateral flow tests and compared with the trial participants who did not wear a mask.
In the end, there was no statistically significant difference between those who wore masks and those who did not when it came to being infected by Covid-19. 1.8 per cent of those wearing masks caught Covid, compared to 2.1 per cent of the control group. As a result, it seems that any effect masks have on preventing the spread of the disease in the community is small.
Some people, of course, did not wear their masks properly. Only 46 per cent of those wearing masks in the trial said they had completely adhered to the rules. But even if you only look at people who wore masks ‘exactly as instructed’, this did not make any difference to the results: 2 per cent of this group were also infected.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-
There are millions of good hard working people, patriots, in this country irregardless of political affiliation - the pendulem swings both ways always has. This country has survived many crisis situations and will continue to do so - they will defend their homes and country, arms and ammo are not exclusive to one group. Americans united - takes compromise by everyone - there are patriotic working men and women who pay taxes and are raising good families of all political affiliations, races, and creeds in this country. Tunnel vision and hatred will eventually diminish to some extent as this country moves forward. Freedom without mutual responsibility is the law of the jungle.
I respect every man on this forum and like reading you opinions and views. Freedom of speech is one of the things that makes America great. We might not always agree but we are all brothers and can learn from each other. I hear ya
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I agree to an extent Geezer. The line is not clear, the sides however are obvious. Who would have ever thought that you could almost guarantee someone's political alignment by the presence of a US flag outside their home. Not all socialists are democrats, some are more honest about it, but one would be hard pressed to find one that's a republican. I don't see the division in this country as repairable. There is no longer enough common ground. We're quickly heading for the time where people will be one of two things. The ones laying in ditch dead, or standing on the rim of it. Whose who is yet to be seen and hopefully it doesn't happen in my lifetime. However I fear it will.
In the words of Thomas Paine. "I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace."
Schu72
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We are implementing surge protocols at work. Admin staff are being pulled into patient care roles. It is getting real very quick in NE Ohio. If this trend continues, you better hope you and yours do not need healthcare in the near future.
Ohio Health system only doing same day surgery unless emergent, so no over night stays such as joint replacements, etc which are generally overnight admission.
Definitely seeing an uptick in my area but not implementing any surge stuff that I'm aware of.
I am seeing weird random backorder on stuff that hasn't been affected yet this year, like sizes of syringes, and certain tubings.
Seeing more cases "closer to home".
One of my best friend's family got it. His wife (confirmed positive) was feverish and body aches. His kids got the GI. He had the world's worst head cold with no sense of taste or smell and a few days of lethargy. He said it was good for his diet because he only ate to make his stomach not hurt. He also harvested a doe before his sense of smell returned and his broadhead caught a piece of the stomach but it wasn't bad because he couldn't smell.
Few teachers at the school along with students leading to challenges in that area.
Friend's daughter has it but just a fever and feeling run down she said.
One of my best friend's family got it. His wife (confirmed positive) was feverish and body aches. His kids got the GI. He had the world's worst head cold with no sense of taste or smell and a few days of lethargy. He said it was good for his diet because he only ate to make his stomach not hurt. He also harvested a doe before his sense of smell returned and his broadhead caught a piece of the stomach but it wasn't bad because he couldn't smell.
Few teachers at the school along with students leading to challenges in that area.
Friend's daughter has it but just a fever and feeling run down she said.
Best of luck getting through this, Scott.
All the specialties like surgery, ICU, cath lab, and others at the hospital my wife works at are now required to wear N95s at all times. Magically, they actually have them this time around. We're still orange down here, but it seems inevitable that the whole state will be red before long.
My predictions that people would again vote with their dollar is proving true. Since the new mandates, small businesses are saying they have seen a dramatic drop in sales. That won't get any better as things ramp up again.
Schu72
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Hopefully things plateau soon. We are limiting elective surgeries to those with same day discharges. I haven't touched a patient in over 13 years....that could change soon.
Here's an article about our area.
https://www.beaconjournal.com/story...ovid-19-surge-summa-akron-general/6340648002/
Big_Holla
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Pretty much how it started for all of us. Wife and daughter didn't get the fever but had everything else. Rest, Tylenol, drink plenty of water and don't be afraid of the testing. Better to know IMO so you are aware of what you may be spreading.
looks like I won't be working until Tuesday so I'll quarintine in the woods. I'm not that thrilled of paying to get tested.