TSI, Forestry, EQUIP

[Buckmaster]

What is the minimum acreage to be eligible for the forestry program with tax relief?

 

[at1010]

What is the minimum acreage to be eligible for the forestry program with tax relief?

I could be wrong - but I believe it is 10 acres. I’ll see if I have it on my desk and report back if I find other info.

 

[at1010]

What is the minimum acreage to be eligible for the forestry program with tax relief?

I googled it and here is what I was able to find - so I believe my memory served me right...for once! haha. Hope this helps buddy.

 

[Buckmaster]

Thank you. Appears I have 2 qualified properties. I’ll look into it as I’m clearing an acre now for an orchard and pond site.

 

[giles]

The acreage is the problem I ran into. No one wants to waste the time on a small piece. I even tried to combine 2 neighboring properties and no one wanted to help. I'm gonna have to do it all myself if I want to improve my place. Might just clear cut it all. Start an orchard. Frustrating

 

[at1010]

The acreage is the problem I ran into. No one wants to waste the time on a small piece. I even tried to combine 2 neighboring properties and no one wanted to help. I'm gonna have to do it all myself if I want to improve my place. Might just clear cut it all. Start an orchard. Frustrating

Giles - how many acres? Have you asked a Forster for a recommended logger? I have a good buddy in Waverly and I know one or two of his buddies have logging companies (good guys). I’d be happy to try to get you a recommendation of someone in area.

Lastly. Don’t underestimate the power of a clear cut. Damn best deer hunting you’ll have for 10-15 years after!!!

 

[giles]

PM sent.

 

[Jamie]

Ok, so you just bought the farm of your dreams. If you are like most of us, you had to sacrifice to buy the farm and now you are stretched thin - hoping to find a way to balance pleasure, hobbies and hopefully some sources of income. So what is next?

If the farm has timber:

One of the first things I would do, if I could start it all over, would be to have a FREE state forester out on my property. These state foresters can help you to evaluate your current timber value, areas that need thinned, areas that need treated, etc. This will end up being your forestry plan. You can take this plan, then apply for tax reduction programs - such as - The Ohio Forestry Tax law, or CAUV. You can also use this to apply for federal EQUIP programs. These can help to mitigate the burden of cost, when removing invasives, putting in water bars, etc. based on the forestry plan recommendations.

The state foresters are free and from my experiences extremely good at balancing future timber best practices with those who have wildlife goals as well. Key here is to be upfront with your goals prior to being in the middle of the forest.

I personally have a private forestry plan as well. This gentleman helps any timber quotes that help to ensure that I don't "get taken to the cleaners" by a logger. The forester will take a small % of the profits of a timber harvest, but WELL worth the effort - to ensure no high grading or unwanted timber practices are done without my consent. I have read many horror stories of terrible logging methods that have been done, without a forester being on sight, marking trees, etc. I highly recommend doing your homework on this as it could save you and your children thousands of dollars, as well as set you up for decades of future income producing timber stands.

Hope you all enjoy this and have a blessed afternoon.

AT

where can I find a free state forester?

 

[at1010]

where can I find a free state forester?

Contact a Service Forester

Service Foresters are professional foresters who work for Ohio DNR. They assist woodland owners across Ohio in maintaining healthy, productive woodlands.

ohiodnr.gov

See link and then on the right side of screen there is a download PDF where you can see Ohio map and then contact information for the forester in your region/area. Hope this helps, let me know if you have questions.

AT.

 

[Jamie]

Awesome! Thanks. My property is in cauv now, but I think that farming the tillable acreage is going to come to an end. Need to find a better form of tax relief.

 

[at1010]

Awesome! Thanks. My property is in cauv now, but I think that farming the tillable acreage is going to come to an end. Need to find a better form of tax relief.

no problem. Also the NRCS office could be useful. I know the gentleman I have worked with is a super nice man from Cambridge and they have a ton of programs that vary for all properties and property types (wetland,Ag, timber, etc).

good luck buddy!

 

["J"]

Albert, a friend purchased a home on 11 acres. It’s got the tree farm classification And tax break. Forrester has been there recently too go over it and make up his plan for the next decade, It’s also pretty wet year round. Is there a wetland program that can run concurrent with that tree farm program?

 

[at1010]

Albert, a friend purchased a home on 11 acres. It’s got the tree farm classification And tax break. Forrester has been there recently too go over it and make up his plan for the next decade, It’s also pretty wet year round. Is there a wetland program that can run concurrent with that tree farm program?

J - I’m no expert but I recalled seeing this last week and it may be of use depending on where his land is and how it is considered (wetlands or not).

https://ohiodnr.gov/static/documents/wildlife/wildlife-management/LE+CREP+H2Ohio+Fact+Sheet_R110420.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1znp2hWxOvA0bo6uPZdS0biiQaXzmgYRuPtwnVQbWh_8hTngZiiMdijHU

If this link does not work - have your friend talk to the forester about nrcs contracts and how they can run congruent to the other contracts. They will probably give you a contact name and person at that nrcs office who your friend can meet with in person and discuss any and all contracts specific to that property.

lastly - and what I should I have first is, yes - I do believe you can have multiple contract types on one property. I am damn near certain of this.

hope this helps buddy.

 

["J"]

Thanks Albert, I passed it along too him.

 

[giles]

Crazy how you are helping others. Keep sharing! This is TOO good.

 

[jagermeister]

Thanks Albert, I passed it along too him.

A couple key criteria are that the land must currently be in agricultural production with at least a 5-year farming history and the current owner having owned it for at least 1-year in order to be eligible for Lake Erie CREP and H2Ohio Incentives. Also needs to be classified as Hydric soil and inside certain watersheds/floodplains for certain conservation practices.

 

["J"]

A couple key criteria are that the land must currently be in agricultural production with at least a 5-year farming history and the current owner having owned it for at least 1-year in order to be eligible for Lake Erie CREP and H2Ohio Incentives. Also needs to be classified as Hydric soil and inside certain watersheds/floodplains for certain conservation practices.

Tree farm fall under that criteria?

 

[jagermeister]

Tree farm fall under that criteria?

Negative. At least not for any of the wetland/riparian related programs.

 

[jagermeister]

Tree farm fall under that criteria?

Well.... Thinking some more... I'm not sure. If it's considered "Ag" and he gets a CAUV tax credit for the tree farm, then mayyyybbee. I guess then it might just depend on whether or not his property consists of hydric soils. Like Al mentioned, he should talk to his local SWCD and/or NRC representative.

 

["J"]

Well.... Thinking some more... I'm not sure. If it's considered "Ag" and he gets a CAUV tax credit for the tree farm, then mayyyybbee. I guess then it might just depend on whether or not his property consists of hydric soils. Like Al mentioned, he should talk to his local SWCD and/or NRC representative.

He said he was going too cont them, this was more for me in trying too wrap my head around these programs.