Gas Shortage ?

[Mickey Merrie]

Our next car will be bought from an Amish Salesman...

 

[Dannmann801]

$2.46/gal at Sam's club today, $2.89 across the road. I counted and every pump was at least 6 deep, 3 or 4 lines were 10 deep. Needless to say I didn't top off at lunch

 

[Jackalope]

MS has a $100 fee added to the yearly tag registration for hybrid and electric vehicles. Trying to recover some of the lost gas tax revenue. Plus I think it's an economic discouragement because our economy is so dependent on oil and gas. But Ms also has some of the lowest gas taxes and fuel taxes in the nation due to the refineries. It's all a balance.

 

[Buckmaster]

OH has similar registration premiums on electric and hybrid vehicles. It’s a way to supplement gas taxes.

 

[Big_Holla]

 

[jagermeister]

Until they produce an electric F150 or F250, I’ll be sticking to a motor that goes vroooom. Plenty of other spots in a budget to cut expenses rather than spend on an overpriced electric vehicle that isn’t good for anything except getting down the road. If it’s solely a commuter vehicle then I can understand it I guess. But that’s about it.

 

[Jackalope]

OH has similar registration premiums on electric and hybrid vehicles. It’s a way to supplement gas taxes.

Interesting. I didn't know that.

 

[Buckmaster]

They’ll get into your wallet any way they can.

 

[triple_duece]

Until they produce an electric F150 or F250, I’ll be sticking to a motor that goes vroooom. Plenty of other spots in a budget to cut expenses rather than spend on an overpriced electric vehicle that isn’t good for anything except getting down the road. If it’s solely a commuter vehicle then I can understand it I guess. But that’s about it.

Just got an email as the F 150 electric is in production.

 

[giles]

If you want it or not, it is the way of the future.

 

[triple_duece]

If you want it or not, it is the way of the future.

Not my future

 

[Buckmaster]

Many motor companies are chasing the electric dream. See how it plays out. I’m a believer and so is my job for the next 20 years. I’ll be at the Solar Power International trade show for a week in New Orleans in September if anyone wants to join me.

 

[Jackalope]

If you want it or not, it is the way of the future.

With the current market I thought about buying some older high mileage blown engine/transmission trucks like 1500s and F-150s and putting Isuzu turbo diesels in them then reselling them. I bet they would sell like a mother fucker. The demand is there. I bet a guy would buy a 15 year old F-150 with a 3.1 or 3.9 TD in it before they would a gasser with 150k miles on the OEM motor.

 

[Jackalope]

Many motor companies are chasing the electric dream. See how it plays out. I’m a believer and so is my job for the next 20 years. I’ll be at the Solar Power International trade show for a week in New Orleans in September if anyone wants to join me.

Let me know and I'll swing over to meet you for dinner.

 

[giles]

With the current market I thought about buying some older high mileage blown engine/transmission trucks like 1500s and F-150s and putting Isuzu turbo diesels in them then reselling them. I bet they would sell like a mother fucker. The demand is there. I bet a guy would buy a 15 year old F-150 with a 3.1 or 3.9 TD in it before they would a gasser with 150k miles on the OEM motor.

Yup. Gonna be hard selling these electric trucks to us truck guys, but the next generation will be all over it. Amazing how many trucks don't have a scratch in the bed these days.

I'd already have a commuter car if I didn't see nasty wrecks all the time on 71. I just don't trust the tiny cars.

 

[Dannmann801]

Panic-induced buying is selfish behavior and we do it ALL the time as a society these days. America was forged in part due to the individual's desire to do their own thing. But... we had stronger ties to family and community because times were hard and loners didn't survive. We're soft now and you can be selfish and survive. I just listened to an evolutionary psychologist present this more eloquently than I can, but the gist is America is no longer functionally society, we're just a conglomeration of individuals.

Jesse, I'd be very interested to read or listen to that presentation if you have a link or can point me to the source.

I've had this feeling for a long time of being disconnected from my community. We moved here in 2006 and I know only 5 sets of neighbors, and we're only good friends with the people across the street and the neighbors behind us. I actually tried purposefully introducing myself to neighbors up and down the road, but nothing really sticks. Was actually kind of an uncomfortable exercise, people didn't know what to make of it. It's weird that we've been here so long and nobody's really interested in meeting anyone else. And nobody has initiated anything in our direction, it's always us reaching out.

I'm closer to and better friends with guys on this board than I am in my own neighborhood (with the exception of the folks behind us, best neighbors I could have ever asked for). I truly believe that our society has to become more decentralized, more local, more family and community oriented. Everything is just too big. (Says the guy who loves Sams Club)

 

[jagermeister]

Jesse, I'd be very interested to read or listen to that presentation if you have a link or can point me to the source.

I've had this feeling for a long time of being disconnected from my community. We moved here in 2006 and I know only 5 sets of neighbors, and we're only good friends with the people across the street and the neighbors behind us. I actually tried purposefully introducing myself to neighbors up and down the road, but nothing really sticks. Was actually kind of an uncomfortable exercise, people didn't know what to make of it. It's weird that we've been here so long and nobody's really interested in meeting anyone else. And nobody has initiated anything in our direction, it's always us reaching out.

I'm closer to and better friends with guys on this board than I am in my own neighborhood (with the exception of the folks behind us, best neighbors I could have ever asked for). I truly believe that our society has to become more decentralized, more local, more family and community oriented. Everything is just too big. (Says the guy who loves Sams Club)

Wayyy off topic, but your experience is notable Dan-O. I just watched a documentary on YouTube last night called Mountain Language or something like that... All about the people in deep Appalachia and their unique mountain scotts-irish language. People didn't have a pot to piss in, but they knew every detail of everyone in their community and stuck by each other. No selfishness, whatsoever. What the hell happened to that? Remember when people used to walk down to the neighbor's house for a cup of sugar or milk? When's the last time that ever happened? People now would rather drive 15 minutes into town than go ask their neighbor. It's pretty sad. And crazy to think about how quickly things have changed. What do the next 20 years have to bring to us?

 

[Buckmaster]

Gone are the days of the ethnic neighborhood social club on the corner. Dan, you should host the annual Neighborhood October Chili Cookoff. You’ll make some new friends.

 

[Big H]

Let me know and I'll swing over to meet you for dinner.

Don't offer to buy, BM can put away the groceries......

 

[Dannmann801]

Gone are the days of the ethnic neighborhood social club on the corner. Dan, you should host the annual Neighborhood October Chili Cookoff. You’ll make some new friends.

Where I used to work on Valley Street in Dayton there was a Polish Club and a Czech Club in the neighborhood.

Thing about it, people used to be able to WALK to the grocery, walk to the club, walk to the bar, walk to church. I think that might have something to do with it, I don’t know. But one of the neighbors I met agreed with me, he’d been here about the same amount of time and he noted that some people come home, pull into their garage, the door goes down, and you never see them. I’m not giving up, I’m gonna figure it out, sort the people around me. My buddy joined the Eagles and invited me, so I been doing that, but like JB said, what the hell has happened to the social fabric?