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COLUMBUS, OH- A total of 239,260 deer were killed during Ohio's 2010-11 hunting season, according to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR), Division of Wildlife. This season's total was below the record 2009-10 total of 261,260.

Counties reporting the highest number of deer checked during the season were: Coshocton-8,837, Tuscarawas-8,164, Licking-7,819, Muskingum-7,130, Guernsey-6,990, Harrison-6,965, Knox-6,335, Carroll-5,721, Holmes-5,635 and Ashtabula-5,333.

The white-tailed deer is the most popular game animal in Ohio, frequently pursued by generations of hunters. Ohio ranks 8th nationally in annual hunting-related sales and 10th in the number of jobs associated with the hunting-related industry. Each year, hunting has an $859 million economic impact in Ohio through the sale of equipment, fuel, food, lodging and more.

Ohio's first modern day deer-gun season opened in 1943 in three counties; hunters harvested 168 deer. In 1956, deer hunting was allowed in all 88 counties and hunters killed 3,911 deer during a one-week season.

Hunters were encouraged to kill more does this season and donate extra venison to organizations assisting Ohioans in need. The Division of Wildlife collaborated with Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry (FHFH) to help pay for the processing of donated venison. Hunters who gave their deer to food banks were not required to pay the processing cost as long as the deer were taken to participating processors. Counties being served by this program can be found online at http://fhfh.org/. Anyone interested in forming a chapter in an area not served should contact FHFH directly.

Open houses will be held on Saturday, March 5 in each of the state's five wildlife districts to provide the public an opportunity to view and discuss proposed hunting and trapping regulations with state wildlife officials. Directions to the open houses can be obtained by calling 1-800-WILDLIFE or visiting wildohio.com .

A statewide hearing on all the proposed rules will be held on Thursday, March 10 at 9 a.m.at the Division of Wildlife’s District One office, which is located at 1500 Dublin Road in Columbus. After considering public input, the Ohio Wildlife Council will vote on the proposed rules and season dates during its April 6 meeting.

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[Editor’s Note: The following is a list of deer checked by hunters during the four-month deer hunting season. Numbers for 2009-10 are listed in parentheses ( ).]

Adams –3,914 (4,489); Allen –1,292 (1,002); Ashland –3,336 (3,424); Ashtabula –5,333 (5,298); Athens –4,256 (5,577); Auglaize –737 (813); Belmont –5,247 (6,160); Brown –3,379 (3,334); Butler –1,652 (1,757); Carroll –5,721 (5,809); Champaign –1,704 (1,837); Clark –967 (975); Clermont –3,723 (3,651); Clinton –1,103 (1,114); Columbiana –4,627 (4,764); Coshocton –8,837 (9,633); Crawford –1,237 (1,360); Cuyahoga –629 (639); Darke –844 (861); Defiance –2,042 (1,593); Delaware –2,123 (2,296); Erie –917 (1,035); Fairfield –3,022 (3,324); Fayette –333 (447); Franklin –826 (1,065); Fulton –1,029 (785); Gallia –3,555 (3,998); Geauga –2,463 (2,551); Greene –1,075 (1,155); Guernsey –6,990 (8,289); Hamilton –2,142 (2,051); Hancock –1,465 (1,916); Hardin –1,374 (1,646); Harrison –6,965 (8,043); Henry –940 (733); Highland –3,435 (3,554); Hocking –4,215 (5,430); Holmes –5,635 (6,209); Huron –2,316 (2,561); Jackson –3,491 (4,385); Jefferson –4,880 (5,887); Knox –6,335 (7,173); Lake –783 (852); Lawrence –2,843 (2,961); Licking –7,819 (8,590); Logan –2,315 (2,514); Lorain –2,744 (2,603); Lucas –679 (829); Madison –592 (659); Mahoning –1,930 (1,900); Marion –964 (925); Medina –2,122 (2,143); Meigs -3,975 (4,821); Mercer –652 (683); Miami –865 (812); Monroe –3,991 (5,106); Montgomery –663 (640); Morgan –3,742 (4,130); Morrow –2,143 (2,345); Muskingum –7,130 (7,865); Noble –4,223 (4,980); Ottawa –404 (411); Paulding –1,441 (1,023); Perry –3,874 (4,556); Pickaway –1,199 (1,370); Pike –2,304 (2,606); Portage –2,726 (2,862); Preble –940 (1,001); Putnam -917 (786); Richland –4,695 (4,754); Ross –3,864 (4,358); Sandusky –799 (850); Scioto –2,809 (3,030); Seneca –1,988 (2,254); Shelby –1,111 (1,051); Stark –2,346 (2,565); Summit –1,344 (1,455); Trumbull –3,496 (3,712); Tuscarawas –8,164 (9,010); Union –967 (983); Van Wert –835 (662); Vinton –3,049 (3,942); Warren –1,693 (1,674); Washington –4,594 (5,203); Wayne –2,353 (2,274); Williams –2,316 (1,985); Wood –918 (961); and Wyandot –1,833 (1,945) Total –239,260 (261,260)
 

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23% reduction in VC... Move along folks nothing to see here. Only a bunch of acorns. and less dead squirrels. :smiley_chinrub:

24% reduction in Athens.. Yet somehow, the resident deer hunting God didn't see that one coming..
 

Jackalope

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Some interesting Number Crunching...

68 of 88 counties saw a decline in harvests.

46 counties saw a decline of 7% or more

28 counties saw a decline of 10% or more

8 counties saw a decline of 20% or more

1 County Fayette saw a decline of 26%.

Fayette was THE ONLY county to be moved to a lower zone next year.. It was the 2nd lowest kill number beside Ottowa of all 88 counties... With only 447 killed. And it also had the highest percentage of less killed.

Pay real good attention to that guys.. It should give you some idea as to how far they are willing to let this go before they change something... The DNR said they wanted to "lower" our deer numbers.... I guess we can see they mean "Decimate"
 

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STUPID SQUIRRELS! rotflmao

Adams 3,914 4489 -575 -13%
Ashland 3,336 3424 -88 -3%
Athens 4,256 5577 -1,321 -24%
Auglaize 737 813 -76 -9%
Belmont 5,247 6160 -913 -15%
Butler 1,652 1757 -105 -6%
Carroll 5,721 5809 -88 -2%
Champaign 1,704 1837 -133 -7%
Clark 967 975 -8 -1%
Clinton 1,103 1114 -11 -1%
Columbiana 4,627 4764 -137 -3%
Coshocton 8,837 9633 -796 -8%
Crawford 1,237 1360 -123 -9%
Cuyahoga 629 639 -10 -2%
Darke 844 861 -17 -2%
Delaware 2,123 2296 -173 -8%
Erie 917 1035 -118 -11%
Fairfield 3,022 3324 -302 -9%
Fayette 333 447 -114 -26%
Franklin 826 1065 -239 -22%
Gallia 3,555 3998 -443 -11%
Geauga 2,463 2551 -88 -3%
Greene 1,075 1155 -80 -7%
Guernsey 6,990 8289 -1,299 -16%
Hancock 1,465 1916 -451 -24%
Hardin 1,374 1646 -272 -17%
Harrison 6,965 8043 -1,078 -13%
Highland 3,435 3554 -119 -3%
Hocking 4,215 5430 -1,215 -22%
Holmes 5,635 6209 -574 -9%
Huron 2,316 2561 -245 -10%
Jackson 3,491 4385 -894 -20%
Jefferson 4,880 5887 -1,007 -17%
Knox 6,335 7173 -838 -12%
Lake 783 852 -69 -8%
Lawrence 2,843 2961 -118 -4%
Licking 7,819 8590 -771 -9%
Logan 2,315 2514 -199 -8%
Lucas 679 829 -150 -18%
Madison 592 659 -67 -10%
Medina 2,122 2143 -21 -1%
Meigs 3,975 4821 -846 -18%
Mercer 652 683 -31 -5%
Monroe 3,991 5106 -1,115 -22%
Morgan 3,742 4130 -388 -9%
Morrow 2,143 2345 -202 -9%
Muskingum 7,130 7865 -735 -9%
Noble 4,223 4980 -757 -15%
Ottawa 404 411 -7 -2%
Perry 3,874 4556 -682 -15%
Pickaway 1,199 1370 -171 -12%
Pike 2,304 2606 -302 -12%
Portage 2,726 2862 -136 -5%
Preble 940 1001 -61 -6%
Richland 4,695 4754 -59 -1%
Ross 3,864 4358 -494 -11%
Sandusky 799 850 -51 -6%
Scioto 2,809 3030 -221 -7%
Seneca 1,988 2254 -266 -12%
Stark 2,346 2565 -219 -9%
Summit 1,344 1455 -111 -8%
Trumbull 3,496 3712 -216 -6%
Tuscarawas 8,164 9010 -846 -9%
Union 967 983 -16 -2%
Vinton 3,049 3942 -893 -23%
Washington 4,594 5203 -609 -12%
Wood 918 961 -43 -4%
Wyandot 1,833 1,945 -112 -6%
 

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Last Season the DNR moved 6 counties from Zone A to Zone B.. Here is how those counties fared.

ALL counties saw a double digit increase in kills.

5 of the 6 saw above a 20% increase

Defiance 2,042 1593 449 +22%
Fulton 1,029 785 244 +24%
Henry 940 733 207 +22%
Paulding 1,441 1023 418 +29%
Van Wert 835 662 173 +21%
Williams 2,316 1,985 331 +14%
 

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Okay, I'm not sticking up for the state or their methology of deer control... But it's off roughly 10-12% from a record harvest the year before.... I'm going to watch what happens next season before I say the skies falling....
 

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Next year we will have telecheck. While I support telecheck many will be skeptical of the data that comes from it.

I would be curious about what % doesn't get checked now.
 

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Next year we will have telecheck. While I support telecheck many will be skeptical of the data that comes from it.

I would be curious about what % doesn't get checked now.
If you are to lazy to take one to the station then your not going to do it over the phone. If you nalways take one to the station then you will call. I dont think there will be a difference.
 

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Okay, I'm not sticking up for the state or their methology of deer control... But it's off roughly 10-12% from a record harvest the year before.... I'm going to watch what happens next season before I say the skies falling....
Fair enough J.... Lets compare this years numbers to 2 years ago then.. The year before the "record harvest".

50 counties this year, had lower harvests numbers than 2 years ago.

23 of those counties had more than a 10% decline this year compared to two years ago.

Adams -7%
Ashtabula -17%
Athens -20%
Auglaize -5%
Belmont -10%
Brown -7%
Carroll -5%
Champaign -1%
Columbiana -1%
Coshocton -8%
Crawford -1%
Cuyahoga -8%
Delaware -1%
Erie -10%
Fayette -12%
Franklin -8%
Gallia -12%
Geauga -11%
Guernsey -12%
Hancock -5%
Harrison -7%
Hocking -14%
Holmes -11%
Huron -3%
Jackson -16%
Jefferson -16%
Knox -12%
Lake -13%
Lawrence -9%
Licking -2%
Lucas -21%
Madison -2%
Meigs -18%
Monroe -22%
Morgan -5%
Morrow -2%
Muskingum -2%
Noble -8%
Perry -17%
Pike -12%
Portage -11%
Ross -6%
Sandusky -5%
Scioto -19%
Summit -2%
Trumbull -12%
Tuscarawas -7%
Vinton -9%
Washington -16%

As many of us have said during those record harvest years.. We're shooting too many deer! The oppositions argument was "You're crazy, we're shooting more than ever. This is the heyday! " Yes, we are.. We also have far LESS" We can only knock the piss out of them for so many years.
What you're seeing now is we're paying the piper for the past 3 years of knocking the piss out of them. BTW this doesn't include the 7 counties they moved to B from A this year as their harvest numbers are skewed with +20% increases.. Those poor bastards will pay the piper next year..
 

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1. You can harvest for population growth
. (harvest less than reproduction creates)
2. You can harvest for population stability
(harvest what reproduction creates)
3. AND You can harvest for population Decline..(harvest more than reproduction creates)

Which one above do you think you are likely to see "Record Harvests" from? Technically 1 and 2.. Since the DNRs inception they have modeled after option 1. And it has taken us many decades to see the harvest numbers we see now compared to 30 years ago.

In the past 4 years however, they have switched to option 3. "Killing more than can recover." What you will see is more deer killed (record harvests) but less dear each cycle.. This however is an unsustainable record.. Unsustainable that is, without introducing another method to increase it again.. See even though we have far less we could still have a record harvest. All we have to do is increase opportunity.. If we added a month to the season in all these counties I guarantee we would see a record harvest again.. This doesn't mean we have "More deer"... Since that didn't happen, it has taken us a very short time to see massive decreases.

Here is the kicker though bud. Just because we killed far far less this year. Doesn't mean there will be "more" next year.. As we still deployed option 3, (kill more than can reproduce) only we're doing the same thing with less deer.. Look for numbers to drop again next year, as no changes were made to increase opportunity so we will not kill more of the less. However since nothing was done to limit opportunity (reduce tags, reduce seasons) we're still going to kill too many.. But the next "too many" will be even more than this years "too many" as the opportunity
(tags,seasons) stayed the same.. In reality what we will do next year is we either kill the same from less (still too many), or more from less (way too many).. Thus, lowering it even more. It you have 2 deer and shoot 1. You shot 1 too many.. If you have 5,000 and shoot 2,500 you still shot too many. We're shooting too many..


We're to the point now that we're not going to see population increases, until we severely limit tags (opportunity) What i suspect will happen is the DNR will indeed reduce tags for 2012-2013 (year after next) The question is will it be low enough to get back into option 1 (population increase) my suspicion is no.. They will limit them to option 2 (maintain population) and feed us some bull about how they're doing something for us by reducing tags.. Print that last part out and put it in the safe.
 
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Hate to see the check stations go..I firmly believe more oppurtunities to poach comes with telecheck..ie..Shoot a 130 class in Bow season..Throw it in the freezer un checked and continue hunting hopeing to kill something bigger...Alot of poachers are busted because of check stations...Check stations cause exposure and poachers hate exposure.

Not good folks.:smiley_confused_vra
 

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Hate to see the check stations go..I firmly believe more oppurtunities to poach comes with telecheck..ie..Shoot a 130 class in Bow season..Throw it in the freezer un checked and continue hunting hopeing to kill something bigger...Alot of poachers are busted because of check stations...Check stations cause exposure and poachers hate exposure.

Not good folks.:smiley_confused_vra
What does a check station have to do with a poacher? A poacher cuts the head off and leaves. How does a check station expose poacher?
 

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I need to do some research on Allen county. If memory serves correct we were down on early bow season, down on gun season, down on the bonus season, and down on muzzle loader season. I guess the late season bow hunters must have kicked some butt? I need to dig it up. Something is fishy there. I know we had an increased limit, but to be down from last year all season and then pull a couple hundred above last year out of our butts doesn't seem right at all.