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Absolutely stupid. Deer farms are proven to be the number one transmitter of CWD but I bet they can still import whole live deer.
CWD OH – Effective August 1, 2018 New Deer Restrictions
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This. Seems like it’s gonna be worth the risk for a lot of people to just bring it back and plead ignorance IF they actually get caught
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Oh yeah. God forbid we hold the people accountable who are ACTUALLY responsible for this mess. Just shotgun effect rule and let the legal, non-high fence farm, hunters take the burden. I'm sorry. That blows and it's very likely that I won't be going out of state for that reason. I'm fine with processing deer myself. No problem. But I have a major issue with leaving my buck with someone I don't know and trust. I'm just super picky I guess. Very aggravating.
A lot of fun hunting new states, BC. Don't let this be a reason not to if you get a chance.
Just because the main cause of CWD spread is likely the deer farms doesn't mean hunters can't also do their part to reduce the rate of spread. Looking the other way and doing nothing would be 'stupid.' Most of the other states have had this rule in effect for many years. Ohio is late to the party, as they say. This has been a long time coming.
And it's really not that big of a deal, guys. So what... skin the hide and bone out a deer. If you kill a good buck that you want to get mounted, cape it out and cap the skull. It doesn't take that much time.
And it's really not that big of a deal, guys. So what... skin the hide and bone out a deer. If you kill a good buck that you want to get mounted, cape it out and cap the skull. It doesn't take that much time.
I'm always down for hunting new states, buddy. lol. one day hope TOO elk hunt, wolves, boars, and moose
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Pick one of many and start learning...
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I don't disagree, but when do you think the department of Ag is going to yell Mr. Yoder he can't import deer? My bet is never.
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I boned out my Elk last year in colorado, I was lucky I killed it opening day and had 3 more days in camp, All my meat was boned out and in the cooler by the time we were leaving. We planned our trip and gave ourselves an extra day at the end of the trip in case we killed a animal our last day hunting.
As of like 4 years ago there were 600 deer farms in Ohio, so like less than half a percentage of these have had CWD. If we got rid of every type of business because of the half of a percentage having issues/being nefarious we would have no businesses left. Even if we stuck to just the farming and ag businesses, Ohio would not be growing and exporting anymore food as all the farmers would he shut down. Yeah CWD sucks but these farms are where we should be studying the disease, learning how it starts, how it spreads, how to get rid of it and vaccinate it.
It’s a step in the right direction, joe...we gotta do our part. Fighting the farm ain’t working...stop beating your head on the wall.
Only way to fight the deer industry is to stop supporting it. Don’t buy the scents, don’t buy a hunt, don’t buy the antler coat rack...don’t buy anything that supports them. The hunters are hurting themselves and are the reason those farms exist. We stop supporting them and they will stop.
Pointing the finger and jumping up and down isn’t doing anything. You want to make a difference, be the difference.
Pointing the finger and jumping up and down isn’t doing anything. You want to make a difference, be the difference.
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Makes sense. So let's just slap the multi-billion dollar industry that are hunters with arbitrary kneejerk restrictions and do nothing about the proven system actually spreading CWD.
Again 600+ deer farms with I believe one farm having CWD. We have wild cervids with CWD in America, why would we NOT put a blanket ban on importing the parts that can contain CWD that will end up in the woods? I agree that the farms need control as well to prevent the spread but you can't put it all at their feet, it's in the wild now so anyone that harvests a cervid is now responsible and will need to be proactive so we have a huntable population for our future.
Hell we have had regulations on the transportation of firewood for how long now because of the emerald Ash borer? Not really seeing how this is all that much different.
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Yes it is in the wild. However in 99% of the cases where a wild population was found with CWD its introduction to that area was traced back to a deer farm importing an infected animal. Not one case of spread has ever been traced back to a hunter importing a dead animal.
I do not disagree that this rule is needed as the possibility exists for a hunter to spread the disease I disagree that it is not being also applied to the proven culprit of the spread of new infections. Its like telling people who contracted Ebola in Houston that they can't travel, but allowing the infected person who returned to Houston from west Africa and spread it to continue walking around unencumbered, and allowing people who recently returned to enter without scrutiny. In doing so we are treating the result, not the problem. Treating symptoms without curing the condition is a losing battle.
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If your area hasn't had any hepatitis, MMR, etc. cases I wouldn't bother vaccinating your kids eitherit ain't your problem.
It's more like if we know that we have a large unvaccinated population so we tell those people they have to stay home forever, yet we do nothing about people from Mexico who are known to spread the virus and allow them to immigrate unencumbered. Logic would dictate that you also rectify the source of the spread. It would be like treating people near chernobyl for symptoms of radiation sickness but never doing anything about the melted down plant in their backyard.
It doesn't matter at this point where it's traced back to. It's in the wild, so we all have to change our ways now.
I don't believe there is a way to test for it currently without killing the animal. I do believe there is a way to test for Ebola so that's comparing apples to oranges. So unfortunately they are taking the risk to keep the business alive for those tax dollars. But again, like your argument of why punish the many for the faults of the few. Why punish the many FARMERS for the few that have an issue. We can't pick and choose our blanket regulations here when it would kill an entire sector of farming industry. I'm not positive. But I believe when a farm is found to contain CWD it's placed under quarantine and can no longer move deer. I also would believe they would contact any other farms that had interactions/imports from this farm as well as long as they follow the rules of keeping records of this. Not like deer are the only ones with issues like this. Think HIV/AIDs, or hell even honey bees with the varroa. There are state/federal regulations about the transmission/transfer of pretty much everything anymore.