Because that POS hasn’t been proven guilty yet.... It’s that whole innocent until proven guilty thing that you’re afforded....
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Because that POS hasn’t been proven guilty yet.... It’s that whole innocent until proven guilty thing that you’re afforded....
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Not true when it comes to employment. I know a guy who was downloading Dungeon and Dragons maps on a peer to peer file network and got popped in a sting operation for child porn. He was looking for files for large dungeon and dragon maps and typed ddlg. Unbeknown to him this is also a porn euphemism for "daddy daughter little girl." The file was bait by an online law enforcement child porn sting. He worked for OSU and the police arrested him at work. OSU fired him before the sun set that evening. The charges were later dropped after they discovered he deleted it immediately and a search of all his electronics didn't turn up a single item or search instance for child porn.
However OSU had already fired him and had zero interest in hearing about how it was a mixup.
Little different from a high ranking football coach, who’d probably sue the living daylights outta the university for wrongful termination.
I guess what I’m saying is high profile people get treated somewhat different from regular folks
I guess what I’m saying is high profile people get treated somewhat different from regular folks
Like I said earlier, he’s not some low level guy. He’ll be treated with kid gloves until the end of the investigation. If he’s guilty, Fire his ass, but if he did what was expected of him per his contract. Welcome back and good luck with your season.
All we’re getting is news from unreliable or second hand information... I’ll wait until the final report comes out...
What J said sums up my feelings. Wait and see. All I know I've read in here or FB. Best as I can tell, neither website were there.
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Oh I'm sure there's a contract clause that allows the university to terminate based on grounds of reputation. It doesn't matter if urban is guilty, did this or didn't do that, all that matters is what the university thinks. In matters such as these its very much guilty until proven innocent. If they feel there isn't enough to prove to the public that he's innocent they'll cut ties. There will be no "say this to keep him and hope the public buys it". If they do keep him it will be a case of clear-cut without a doubt he did all he could with zero shady business that could even be interpreted as a coverup. They're not going to risk it looking like they're covering for him or making excuses for him just to keep him as a coach.
Sad thing is all the Great ones, including Woody, would never be able to run their programs in today's game!
What will be will be.
What will be will be.
Everyone seems to forget the cash cow inn all of this... The alumni.... They have the ultimate say so in this matter... If there’s a a consensus that they want him to stay, they’ll weather the storm too a certain extent...
Again, if they can’t prove he did anything wrong...
I agree Joe, his contract is riddled with pitfalls once that ethics door gets opened, but the court of public opinion weighs less than the court of the alumni.... In my humble opinion
Again, if they can’t prove he did anything wrong...
I agree Joe, his contract is riddled with pitfalls once that ethics door gets opened, but the court of public opinion weighs less than the court of the alumni.... In my humble opinion
Hell yes i am. Im old enough to remember Michigan doing this to OSU.
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The funny part for me is: what team someone's a fan of should have zero sway on their opinion when it comes to allegation of covering up domestic violence.
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Agreed. As close as college football season is though. . . .You know there would be some back and forth ribbing.
unless I missed it nothing has been said about the woman has a drinking problem.
neither did I hear anything about when the police went to question him he had been at the University for 3 or 4 hours when he supposedly was home abusing her......
and yet he is assumed guilty until proven innocent?
The internet jury makes me Smh sometimes.
neither did I hear anything about when the police went to question him he had been at the University for 3 or 4 hours when he supposedly was home abusing her......
and yet he is assumed guilty until proven innocent?
The internet jury makes me Smh sometimes.
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It's not the internet jury its our touchy feely society and businesses with little tolerance for negative press. Look at how many very important people have been fired immediately upon alegationf of sexual misconduct. Hell they even got charlie rose. He was the Tom Brokaw of today. Hardly any of these guys have ever even seen charges in court much less been proven guilty. Yet these companies fired their ass in a heartbeat and gave these women all kinds of money. That doesn't mean that it's right, but that is reality.
I don't think that you will find anyone here that says he should be fired they simply on allegations. But if they can prove that he knew and did nothing about it so that he could keep him on as a coach, then his ass needs to be grass.
I don't think that you will find anyone here that says he should be fired they simply on allegations. But if they can prove that he knew and did nothing about it so that he could keep him on as a coach, then his ass needs to be grass.
I’m kinda waiting till I read or see what the end result is after the investigation is over. So far all I’ve watched was the woman’s interview and her credibility is somewhat at question as well. The interviewer asked one final question, something like, In your opinion should UM remain OSU’s Head coach after all of this? She kinda contradicted herself saying he knew and let it go on and that shouldn’t be allowed to happen under any head coach but minutes before that question she said he walked up to her after winning the NC game and asked her how things were going in the family and she said they were doing fine. How is he suppose to rectify the situation or get involved if she’s not totally honest? Maybe she was pressured to stay quiet by staff or the Bruce family, I don’t know?!?!
I think anytime you hire friends or family you set yourself up for future problems if situations like this arise. It’s sad that he could lose his job due to someone else’s actions.
Question: If you hear yelling and screaming coming from a house in your neighborhood occasionally do you investigate it or assume it’s nothing real serious and let it go?
What if a coworker shows up to work 2-3 times a year with bruises but when questioned they say, Oh, it’s nothing but you later on hear they bring your name up during a civil suit as a witness during a divorce and custody hearing, how would you respond or like that?
Sad seeing all the smear campaigns on Urbans past football practices too. Where were these ex-players 3 weeks ago? Maybe he did cross the line during practice or behind doors but it’s “he said he said” at this point. Of all the players he’s coached over the years what’s the ratio of players who say he was good to the ones that say he was bad? How bad was he? Are they just complainers? Did they deserve their treatment? Who knows?
Urban and Shelly have done a lot of good along the way too so let’s not forget that either.
After the investigation is completed and he is proven guilty of neglect then let the legal matters take the appropriate course. But in this day in age with SM and PC like it is are we encouraged to make everyone’s business our business? I have a distinct feeling that had the POS not been fired none of this would have came to light. She’s appeared to have moved on after the divorce but when her ex got fired her financial support took a dump. That’s pretty much how I see it.SMH
I think anytime you hire friends or family you set yourself up for future problems if situations like this arise. It’s sad that he could lose his job due to someone else’s actions.
Question: If you hear yelling and screaming coming from a house in your neighborhood occasionally do you investigate it or assume it’s nothing real serious and let it go?
What if a coworker shows up to work 2-3 times a year with bruises but when questioned they say, Oh, it’s nothing but you later on hear they bring your name up during a civil suit as a witness during a divorce and custody hearing, how would you respond or like that?
Sad seeing all the smear campaigns on Urbans past football practices too. Where were these ex-players 3 weeks ago? Maybe he did cross the line during practice or behind doors but it’s “he said he said” at this point. Of all the players he’s coached over the years what’s the ratio of players who say he was good to the ones that say he was bad? How bad was he? Are they just complainers? Did they deserve their treatment? Who knows?
Urban and Shelly have done a lot of good along the way too so let’s not forget that either.
After the investigation is completed and he is proven guilty of neglect then let the legal matters take the appropriate course. But in this day in age with SM and PC like it is are we encouraged to make everyone’s business our business? I have a distinct feeling that had the POS not been fired none of this would have came to light. She’s appeared to have moved on after the divorce but when her ex got fired her financial support took a dump. That’s pretty much how I see it.SMH
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I agree Bro.... what a sad sad world we live in today. Wife beaters, child molesters and all other POS need to be dealt with that’s for sure, but for UM to assume responsibility for another’s doing is Bullshit! IMO