I see. I know what these were priced new thru a dealer. Saw his price. Saw he dropped it and didn't have any offers on the table. Shot him a PM on AT and we struck a deal. The guy claimed it has never been out of the package. I don't care if it has or hasn't. As long as it functions like new, I am okay with it. I was going to give a shout to Skeeter Creek and tell him to go ahead and order the Spot Hogg wrapped Hoggit. I had accepted the fact I was going to have to spend a tiny bit more. Then I saw this deal and pulled the trigger. $10 over my price range, $50-75 under new money. I better act now.