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"Man Laws" of hunting

Hortontoter said:
I agree coons and crows do more corn damage than deer do. And don't forget groundhogs, they really destroy a section of beans near a den site.

I only shoot coons during the season they are allowed to be hunted. They are furbearers and are not supposed to be killed year round. I love watching them come to my FoxPro. Yes, they are a nuisance, but by law they are protected except during hunting/trapping season.
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A very respectable opinion which I'd expect a man of your integrity to possess. My retort would this: "Whose laws?" The arbitrary laws imposed on free men by folks in Ivory towers, or the law of the land that says I can protect what's mine? Obviously I fall on the "kill my chickens, I kill you" side of the spectrum. It makes for interesting discussion.
 
I didn't hunt them last year either Chad, for the same reason. It isn't worth a dollar or two to kill one in my opinion. I did miss chasing them though.

I understand your thoughts Jesse. But, lets look at it this way, just for the sake of rational thinking. Those same "laws imposed on free men by folks in Ivory towers" are made for White-Tailed deer too. Seems odd that we would all be up in arms if one took it upon him or her self to shoot a deer in July for wrecking their vegetable garden. Not trying to start an argument just voicing my rational reasoning. Deer, coons, chipmunks, and even the opossum have laws that protect them . Some have seasons for harvest and others are protected year round. In my mind the coon is no lesser of a game animal than the deer we all love to pursue.

An example of this happened a few years ago. I drove into my Dads place to hunt turkeys in late April. I stepped out of my truck and heard his chickens making all kinds of noise in the coop. After our morning hunt we went to investigate, all his chickens had been killed. We hung a trail camera in the coop to see what came after the remains. Sure enough two large coons returned. I didn't try to kill these coons until Nov. 10 of that year, unsuccessfully though.

Just my way of thinking, and probably not the way most would handle it.
 
Per the ODNR: "Nuisance or sick raccoons may be trapped without a permit, but it is illegal to live trap and relocate them to a new area. In order to prevent the possible spread of raccoon diseases in Ohio, all live trapped raccoons must be released again on the homeowner's property or humanely euthanized". I verified this with the county Wildlife Officer (Warden) a couple years ago.
 
One that really makes my blood boil is when, you have permission to hunt a piece of private property and a few others also have permission. You are set up and hunting and one of the others that also have permission takes it upon himself to become the property police. Walks over, busts your set up, and wants to see your permission slip. Had this happen while working a hot gobbler and had him at about 80 yards and commited to coming in. The outcome was NOT good for the idiot, to say the least.

IMO, If you have permission to hunt a piece of private property, and you know that you are NOT the only one who has permission, mind your own damn business while hunting there. Have the common sense and courtesy to politely and quietly avoid a fellow hunter if you mistakenly walk in on them.
 
MountNMan said:
One that really makes my blood boil is when, you have permission to hunt a piece of private property and a few others also have permission. You are set up and hunting and one of the others that also have permission takes it upon himself to become the property police. Walks over, busts your set up, and wants to see your permission slip. Had this happen while working a hot gobbler and had him at about 80 yards and commited to coming in. The outcome was NOT good for the idiot, to say the least.

IMO, If you have permission to hunt a piece of private property, and you know that you are NOT the only one who has permission, mind your own damn business while hunting there. Have the common sense and courtesy to politely and quietly avoid a fellow hunter if you mistakenly walk in on them.
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I once hunted a small farm and the owner asked me to run off anyone I saw hunting her property. I saw a few guys wander through during deer gun season. I wasn't about to confront a couple guys with guns over a property I didn't own. I had hunted many times in bow season and never saw a sole. I figured these two passing through weren't worth the headaches confronting them may create.
 
MountNMan said:
One that really makes my blood boil is when, you have permission to hunt a piece of private property and a few others also have permission. You are set up and hunting and one of the others that also have permission takes it upon himself to become the property police. Walks over, busts your set up, and wants to see your permission slip. Had this happen while working a hot gobbler and had him at about 80 yards and commited to coming in. The outcome was NOT good for the idiot, to say the least.

IMO, If you have permission to hunt a piece of private property, and you know that you are NOT the only one who has permission, mind your own damn business while hunting there. Have the common sense and courtesy to politely and quietly avoid a fellow hunter if you mistakenly walk in on them.
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Isn't that where communication comes into play. IMO if you guys had been communicating this never would of happened.
 
Bigslam51 said:
Isn't that where communication comes into play. IMO if you guys had been communicating this never would of happened.
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Hortontoter said:
Wonder if shooting is considered a humanely way to euthanize. If so why would one need to be trapped first? And who is going to trap one to release again on their property? Another goofy scenario that we could run across.
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Shooting is considered humane euthanization of a trapped animal. Not sure on the must be trapped first part for small critters like coons. I don't believe so. All firearms laws and ordinances must be followed.

I caught a coon in a live trap out by the garbage can a week or so back. Wife saw it the next morning and said it was cute and wanted to give it a second chance so i let it go. Caught it again the very next night and it caught a pellet between the eyes.
 
Jackalope said:
Shooting is considered humane euthanization of a trapped animal. Not sure on the must be trapped first part for small critters like coons. I don't believe so. All firearms laws and ordinances must be followed.

I caught a coon in a live trap out by the garbage can a week or so back. Wife saw it the next morning and said it was cute and wanted to give it a second chance so i let it go. Caught it again the very next night and it caught a pellet between the eyes.
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Prolonged the inevitable....
 
Bigslam51 said:
Isn't that where communication comes into play. IMO if you guys had been communicating this never would of happened.
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That';s true, but we never knew who each were.But on the other hand, Having permission to hunt someones property doesn't make make you the property police, so if he would have minded his own business and quietly left, then it would have never happened either. Not only that, but walking in on an active turkey hunt is a good way to get your a$$ shot! He's lucky it ended the way it did, instead of him leaving the woods in a bag as another hunting accident.
 
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MountNMan said:
That';s true, but we never knew who each were.But on the other hand, Having permission to hunt someones property doesn't make make you the property police, so if he would have minded his own business and quietly left, then it would have never happened either. Not only that, but walking in on an active turkey hunt is a good way to get your a$$ shot! He's lucky it ended the way it did, instead of him leaving the woods in a bag as another hunting accident.
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I have access to hunt a few properties that others do as well. One property in particular has folks I have never met (4 hunters in total). We text with one another to talk and advise who will be where - when. This method works rather nicely.
 
huntn2 said:
I have access to hunt a few properties that others do as well. One property in particular has folks I have never met (4 hunters in total). We text with one another to talk and advise who will be where - when. This method works rather nicely.
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That's good. How did you get their number ? I couldn't do that, because I didn't know who they were or their phone numbers. The old man who owned the property has since passed.
 
The EHD talk has me thinking about what I'd do if it was to hit my area. I know sitting at home isn't an option...I'm really uncertain what I'd do. Probably find a new area to hunt for a few years. But I think a lot of hunters would do that, so...just a tough place to be.
 
giles said:
The EHD talk has me thinking about what I'd do if it was to hit my area. I know sitting at home isn't an option...I'm really uncertain what I'd do. Probably find a new area to hunt for a few years. But I think a lot of hunters would do that, so...just a tough place to be.
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With it being in our neighborhood up here and now hearing it on the other side of the river in both Pa and WV it's going to be a crap shoot how far this goes.... I may have to start looking in Stark county for a place.... [emoji56]
 
"J" said:
With it being in our neighborhood up here and now hearing it on the other side of the river in both Pa and WV it's going to be a crap shoot how far this goes.... I may have to start looking in Stark county for a place.... [emoji56]
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Have fun with that, J. I can't even find a new place to deer hunt around here.
 
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