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Michigan to ban baiting

#21
Indeed. And the one article that motorbreaker linked above said there is zero data to support that baiting assists in spreading the disease.
Yes and alot is unknown about the disease. However if it can stay in the soil for 20 years and it is already there then I believe that is the equivalent to locking the barn door after the horse is out.


Here are a couple articles from Dr. Kroll on CWD

https://www.drdeer.com/uploads/cms/nav-17-587fdc606e753.pdf

https://www.drdeer.com/uploads/cms/nav-17-5880e8f2dd836.pdf
 
#23
My buddy just bought 70 acres outside Rogers City, MI. Thats extreme NE lower peninsula. There are a million deer there. Not sure if it's in the Tuberculosis zone, but there isn't a gas station, grocery store, or any business in general around there that dont have bags of corn stacked for sale much like we have bags of salt.
 
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My buddy just bought 70 acres outside Rogers City, MI. Thats extreme NE lower peninsula. There are a million deer there. Not sure if it's in the Tuberculosis zone, but there isn't a gas station, grocery store, or any business in general around there that dont have bags of corn stacked for sale much like we have bags of salt.
I would imagine that is in the TB zone. Yep, the Michigan way 50 lb. bags of bulk carrots, sugar beets and corn OR by the pick-up truck load LOL!
 

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Good. Get rid of all of it. It would force people to learn actual woodsmanship and deer behavior. God forbid we can't just put out a pile of corn and let the deer come to us. Lol. Doesn't matter if they make it illegal anyways, cuz we all know that making drugs illegal got rid of that issue...
That includes banning food plots too right?
 
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Good. Get rid of all of it. It would force people to learn actual woodsmanship and deer behavior. God forbid we can't just put out a pile of corn and let the deer come to us. Lol. Doesn't matter if they make it illegal anyways, cuz we all know that making drugs illegal got rid of that issue...
That includes banning food plots too right?
Hahaha. I knew someone was going after the bait on this one. (See what I did there) Lol. If they banned everything, including food plots, tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear. I know there is a big debate between whether having a food plot is baiting and I'll weigh in on my opinion.

Yes. In the true sense of what it is, we are planting food, for deer, that wasn't there before. So yeah, it is drawing deer to a new area because of food is changing deer movement patterns in some cases. BUT, unlike baiting, there are immense herd health and habitat improvement benefits of planting a food plot.

The fued between food plots and baiting is completely useless anyways. If want true deer hunting, without allowing hunters any food source advantages, then you'd have to make it illegal to hunt over or near farm fields which is nearly all of the Midwest, south, northwest... So it's not even worth the fight.

I understand some people feel they "need" to bait because of a multitude of reasons but, eliminating the dumping of corn & commercial attractants would just make the hunting community better IMO. Make hunters learn how to read deer sign, the woods and hunt smarter. I know too many "hunters" who go out and dump 100# of corn a week, sit over it and smoke deer. Are they killing mature deer? Mostly not, but still, putting that bait down does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the deer herd. A huge part of our hunting heritage is respect for the game we pursue. That includes helping improve the health and habitat of the quarry we follow.

That's my soapbox. Lol. Good night Merica.
 

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We have feeders on my farm that are operating year around. We are more successful hunting trails to and from the feeders than hunting over the actual feeder. Are we baiting ? Or are we feeding and growing bigger and healthier deer? I can tell you we have big deer and a lot of them. And they go nocturnal the week before gun seasonthat is how they get old


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We have feeders on my farm that are operating year around. We are more successful hunting trails to and from the feeders than hunting over the actual feeder. Are we baiting ? Or are we feeding and growing bigger and healthier deer? I can tell you we have big deer and a lot of them. And they go nocturnal the week before gun seasonthat is how they get old


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Yes, you are baiting
 

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What’s the difference between feeding and baiting? Sounds the same to me, just changing the name. If the farmer planted the food for the deer, I would agree.
 

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I don’t think the animals care or the difference between baiting , growing food plots or growing crops for human consumption. If there is any farming in the area you hunt including orchards , and hay fields you are hunting around bait. Get over yourselves and off your high horse!


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I don’t think the animals care or the difference between baiting , growing food plots or growing crops for human consumption. If there is any farming in the area you hunt including orchards , and hay fields you are hunting around bait. Get over yourselves and off your high horse!


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Lol, I ain’t upset. I bait or feed or whatever you want to call it.

 
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