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Northwest Ohio deer hunters!!!

I agree it is very sad that they feel they have to pay someone to reduce the deer herd in these areas. Unfortunately however, we as hunters in general have probably forced their hand in this. 95 percent of us are ethical and attempt to do things the best way possible but then there is the other 5 percent. How many times on this forum alone have there been threads about trespassers or some one getting their things stolen. Unfortunately these are the things the general public hear about most of the time and not the guy who put in the time and effort to get set up, practice, and put a nice clean shot on an animal that goes no more than 100 yards. If the idiots will go onto someone's property and do these things behind someone's back why would anyone think there wouldn't be problems letting a bunch of guys hunt the parks. Let alone someone either getting excited or just not caring and taking an unethical shot and having a deer run into someone's back yard with an arrow in it or hell even shooting one in someone's backyard. No matter what they would put in place chances are good there would be some kind of issue and unfortunately there is just no way to screen for stupid. Don't get me wrong I would love to see them open it up to the public on a draw system or something. Just my opinion
 
I hate to say it but welcome to the future! I don't think any of us will see it in our life time but I was just thinking about this very topic the other day. The demise of hunting is typically dismissed with "look at all these public lands we have to hunt - there will always be some place to hunt." Well let me ask this, hunting is a privilege right? And its a privilege granted as long as the majority of the non-hunting public sees fit to allow us to hunt - right?

So at what point does the non-hunting public no longer have the ability to relate to hunting? At what point can the non-hunting public no longer remember when Dad used to go out for rabbit or grandad went up to camp every year for deer? Once we are at that point.....look out. That to me is the real danger in where we are headed with ever declining hunter numbers. Once the non-hunting public no longer relates to hunting and the demand for land far exceeds any demand for hunting.......just how much legislative action do you think would be required to convert public hunting lands into parks, biking trails and general recreation?

But we will still need hunting to control game populations? Nope....the future is paid bounty hunters.
 
giblet said:
I hate to say it but welcome to the future! I don't think any of us will see it in our life time but I was just thinking about this very topic the other day. The demise of hunting is typically dismissed with "look at all these public lands we have to hunt - there will always be some place to hunt." Well let me ask this, hunting is a privilege right? And its a privilege granted as long as the majority of the non-hunting public sees fit to allow us to hunt - right?

So at what point does the non-hunting public no longer have the ability to relate to hunting? At what point can the non-hunting public no longer remember when Dad used to go out for rabbit or grandad went up to camp every year for deer? Once we are at that point.....look out. That to me is the real danger in where we are headed with ever declining hunter numbers. Once the non-hunting public no longer relates to hunting and the demand for land far exceeds any demand for hunting.......just how much legislative action do you think would be required to convert public hunting lands into parks, biking trails and general recreation?

But we will still need hunting to control game populations? Nope....the future is paid bounty hunters.
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Very well said.
 
There are 1000's of city boys from Toledo and Cleveland that drive hours to hunt, ODNR could have created a lottery to do a archery hunt in Toledo Area and Cleveland and then a additional small charge to the people selected. So a couple thousand put in for the lottery $5 = $10,000. and then another $15.00 for a special urban tag = $15,000. Wow I am up $25,000 and solving the problem, state government down $70,000. Of course I am underestimating the amount of money the state would probably make.
 
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I think another aspect people overlook is the secrecy. Using contracted marksman allows the Metroparks to conduct the kill very covertly. They can drive around in unmarked vehicles with silenced rifles at night after the park closes. This allows the deer to simply vanished without a trace or public interference. If they were to open it up to hunters they would have to deal with state regulations and individuals. The bleeding heart animal lovers could show up and undermine everything. Then they would have to deal with Hunter harassment complaints by hunters, slashed tires on vehicles, and a whole host of other issues. And the last thing they need is channel 7 sticking a microphone and Billy Bob's face and him saying some dumb shit. It's all about convenience and efficiency.
 
giblet said:
I hate to say it but welcome to the future! I don't think any of us will see it in our life time but I was just thinking about this very topic the other day. The demise of hunting is typically dismissed with "look at all these public lands we have to hunt - there will always be some place to hunt." Well let me ask this, hunting is a privilege right? And its a privilege granted as long as the majority of the non-hunting public sees fit to allow us to hunt - right?

So at what point does the non-hunting public no longer have the ability to relate to hunting? At what point can the non-hunting public no longer remember when Dad used to go out for rabbit or grandad went up to camp every year for deer? Once we are at that point.....look out. That to me is the real danger in where we are headed with ever declining hunter numbers. Once the non-hunting public no longer relates to hunting and the demand for land far exceeds any demand for hunting.......just how much legislative action do you think would be required to convert public hunting lands into parks, biking trails and general recreation?

But we will still need hunting to control game populations? Nope....the future is paid bounty hunters.
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Well said my friend
 
This stupid shit has been going on for decades!!!! I remember reading that Columbus metro parks doing this many years ago cept it was like costing $1100-$1500 dollars per deer and they were tranquillizing them and relocating them somewhere where they prolly got killed by a hunter,hit by a car or died from the stress by being moved! Dumb ass stuff regardless....rant over.......ugh
 
finelyshedded said:
This stupid shit has been going on for decades!!!! I remember reading that Columbus metro parks doing this many years ago cept it was like costing $1100-$1500 dollars per deer and they were tranquillizing them and relocating them somewhere where they prolly got killed by a hunter,hit by a car or died from the stress by being moved! Dumb ass stuff regardless....rant over.......ugh
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I lived in Columbus back in 85-87 when they were doing that... Across the bypass from the Busch brewery if I remember right....
 
Jackalope said:
I think another aspect people overlook is the secrecy. Using contracted marksman allows the Metroparks to conduct the kill very covertly. They can drive around in unmarked vehicles with silenced rifles at night after the park closes. This allows the deer to simply vanished without a trace or public interference. If they were to open it up to hunters they would have to deal with state regulations and individuals. The bleeding heart animal lovers could show up and undermine everything. Then they would have to deal with Hunter harassment complaints by hunters, slashed tires on vehicles, and a whole host of other issues. And the last thing they need is channel 7 sticking a microphone and Billy Bob's face and him saying some dumb shit. It's all about convenience and efficiency.
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That is exactly what it is 100% The last thing they want is deer being gutted and drug through the middle of the park in the middle of the day. Or worse a deer running around with an arrow sticking out of it.
 
Mill Creek park up here in Youngstown borders Youngstown and Boardman and they had a deer population issue years ago and they kicked around the sharp shooter vs the bow hunting methods. Decided the bow hunting method was the cheapest and regretted it as people freaked out seeing dead deer being dragged thru their back yards.... Didn't last long.... Don't know what those city folks expected to happen, they bitched about thousands of dollars of landscaping being destroyed on their properties and then turned around and bitched about dead deer being dragged around the bordering properties.....
 
giblet said:
I hate to say it but welcome to the future! I don't think any of us will see it in our life time but I was just thinking about this very topic the other day. The demise of hunting is typically dismissed with "look at all these public lands we have to hunt - there will always be some place to hunt." Well let me ask this, hunting is a privilege right? And its a privilege granted as long as the majority of the non-hunting public sees fit to allow us to hunt - right?

So at what point does the non-hunting public no longer have the ability to relate to hunting? At what point can the non-hunting public no longer remember when Dad used to go out for rabbit or grandad went up to camp every year for deer? Once we are at that point.....look out. That to me is the real danger in where we are headed with ever declining hunter numbers. Once the non-hunting public no longer relates to hunting and the demand for land far exceeds any demand for hunting.......just how much legislative action do you think would be required to convert public hunting lands into parks, biking trails and general recreation?

But we will still need hunting to control game populations? Nope....the future is paid bounty hunters.
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Interesting point. With the deer numbers on public land slashed, Joe the Plumber has lost interest. So, he won't be taking his son or daughter as he sees no point when there are no deer.

Over time, hunter numbers dwindle. Thus, the voice of the non-hunter group grows louder and more influential.

It's becoming a rich man's sport and will one day likely be a past time of the elite.
 
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