Random weather thread

["J"]

Loosing the lake was heartbreaking. Thousands of fish, gone. 5 generations of fishing, water foul hunting, boating and swimming in that water. Now it’s just a valley with a stream going down the middle. Thinking of all the times we’ve had and now lost brought many family members to tears.

The ODNR (dep. overseeing dams/ lakes and waterways) was very insensitive and a bitch for the most part, sending me demands with threats of $5,000 fines per day per infraction on repairs or destroying the spillway and damn. Immediately after, I was forced to hire a “approved “ engineer to draw up plans just to outline stabilizing the breach. That bill alone was over a grand. They have lost their perspective and are not a friend to the landowner as they use to be historically.

What would it take to get it back to its old self?

 

[hickslawns]

I know you've worked hard to keep the place alive and continue the memories for next generations. I'm truly sorry for you. A guy doesn't need to be kicked by ODNR while he is down.

 

[CJD3]

What would it take to get it back to its old self?

In over 100 years, the dam has never been crested. There is an 2ed, emergency overflow to help channel high waters to the south. ( spillway discharges to the west.) common sense would be to bring in clay and repair the breach and repairing the dam…

Due to the apparent current mindset of the division to do away with dams and allow waterways to flow as streams, they are using the breach as an excuse to demand what could be millions in repairs and improvements such as widening the dam base, destroy and build a new spillway, replace the existing discharge pipes,( just re-sleeved 6-7 years ago) as well as create additional , secondary overflow.


When this happened, there was NO loss of life and No property damage down stream.

The state first requires a “approved” engineer to draw up proposed plans incorporating the states demands. Along with an hydronic study,(Read good ol boy club)…
The company (s) doing the work after the state finally approves everything must also be on the “boys club” list…
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Also, if your lake/ dam is lucky enough to be known to the state, you are required to submit to a dam inspection. It can be 1 of 3 classes.Funny thing is you pay this fee every year but they only
stop out and physically see it every 5 years. We were a class 1 dam and had to pay around $550. 00 a year.


I would like to think I have some ideas, but that’s for another day.

 

[Clay Showalter]

In over 100 years, the dam has never been crested. There is an 2ed, emergency overflow to help channel high waters to the south. ( spillway discharges to the west.) common sense would be to bring in clay and repair the breach and repairing the dam…

Due to the apparent current mindset of the division to do away with dams and allow waterways to flow as streams, they are using the breach as an excuse to demand what could be millions in repairs and improvements such as widening the dam base, destroy and build a new spillway, replace the existing discharge pipes,( just re-sleeved 6-7 years ago) as well as create additional , secondary overflow.


When this happened, there was NO loss of life and No property damage down stream.

The state first requires a “approved” engineer to draw up proposed plans incorporating the states demands. Along with an hydronic study,(Read good ol boy club)…
The company (s) doing the work after the state finally approves everything must also be on the “boys club” list…
———-
Also, if your lake/ dam is lucky enough to be known to the state, you are required to submit to a dam inspection. It can be 1 of 3 classes.Funny thing is you pay this fee every year but they only
stop out and physically see it every 5 years. We were a class 1 dam and had to pay around $550. 00 a year.


I would like to think I have some ideas, but that’s for another day.

Might be worth talking to a lawyer

 

[CJD3]

Might be worth talking to a lawyer

The state would drag it out. They have a lot more money than I do. And time…