Shingles

[Hedgelj]

There‘s a fine line between ridiculous paranoia and sensible caution. You may have erased that line…. I agree with your take on the whole Covid fiasco. But to spread that thought process across the board is a dangerous stance to your health. But it’s a (somewhat) free country, so you do you….

agreed

 

[Tipmoose]

There‘s a fine line between ridiculous paranoia and sensible caution. You may have erased that line…. I agree with your take on the whole Covid fiasco. But to spread that thought process across the board is a dangerous stance to your health. But it’s a (somewhat) free country, so you do you….

I'd argue the line really isn't that fine at all. It's actually pretty coarse and well defined....

 

[Buckmaster]

My doctor gave me 2 shots about 90 days apart when I turned 50 a few years ago. I did have chicken pox in second grade.

 

["J"]

I'd argue the line really isn't that fine at all. It's actually pretty coarse and well defined....

I was being generous….. Plus it goes with all the quotes that are out there

 

[Hedgelj]

I'd argue the line really isn't that fine at all. It's actually pretty coarse and well defined....

I was being generous….. Plus it goes with all the quotes that are out there

I personally think the line varies depending upon the topic, the knowledge base of the individual, and the opportunity for the .gov to exert control.

Using Covid as an example the .gov took every opportunity to seize control, whereas while the pain and discomfort can be debilitating I don't think varicella has much of a mortality rate in the older folk so there's no advantage to control.

Now to debate the sick (pun intended) relationship between drug manufacturers and the FDA..... you don't have to look far.

American Sickness and Dreamland are two great reads if you want to understand what is wrong with American "health"care but for all it's faults we still have the ability to do more than any other place in this planet to keep you alive.

 

[giles]

And the timing of the pain for me. Always stress induced. Sometimes mental, sometime physical, but always stress that starts it. Not a great time to have a pain that is so "touchy". A comment like his made me think "tell me you've never had shingles, without telling me you've never had shingles"

 

[Mike]

I'll probably get it at my next physical. My parents, especially my mom, had it super bad. I never had symptoms of chicken pox, but I was tested and was confirmed to have had it. My sister has had shingles numerous times and she's a good ways away from 50.

 

[P8riot]

I would LOVE to see the basis for this statement.

It isn't in writing anywhere to my knowledge, but doctors who weren't pushing the vaccines that had low percentages of their patients vaccinated complained that their payout rates from insurance companies were very low. They were placed into a lower payout bracket. So they got paid less for the same ICD coding that other doctors who had very high percentages of their clients vaccinated.

Again, not in writing and those stories won't get public recognition. The medical field has been on a slow decline of real "doctoring" for the treatment of symptoms rather than the cause due to pharmaceutical kickbacks. This Rona debacle kicked it into high gear showing just how far doctors would go and how far from their oath they would be willng to deviate in order to save themselves. Not all doctors, but if you have one you trust, I would cherish them. Trust was broken that I don't think I will ever regain for the medical industry.

That's why I am very leary of any vaccination/immunization of any kind.

 

[hickslawns]

@P8riot I see bits of truth in what you say. The shingles vaccine has been around longer than the Rona. I agree the medical industry is a mess. Much trust has been eroded. I also believe many have regrets regarding the vaccine mandates. I certainly wouldn't dump the bulk of doctors into this category of being unethical and breaching their oath. My wife's employer held off until the last minute. They also offered alternatives to taking the "vaccine" to their employees. My personal doctor left his position with the hospital which employed him. I've heard other stories as well. Was it a mess? Sure was. Did every doctor sell out? Far from it. It forced a lot of people in the medical field to make personal decisions about their livelihoods, ethics, and where they draw the line.

You're in a room of cynics in regards to many issues and it seems like your on an island by yourself here. Lol

 

[Hedgelj]

It isn't in writing anywhere to my knowledge, but doctors who weren't pushing the vaccines that had low percentages of their patients vaccinated complained that their payout rates from insurance companies were very low. They were placed into a lower payout bracket. So they got paid less for the same ICD coding that other doctors who had very high percentages of their clients vaccinated.

Again, not in writing and those stories won't get public recognition. The medical field has been on a slow decline of real "doctoring" for the treatment of symptoms rather than the cause due to pharmaceutical kickbacks. This Rona debacle kicked it into high gear showing just how far doctors would go and how far from their oath they would be willng to deviate in order to save themselves. Not all doctors, but if you have one you trust, I would cherish them. Trust was broken that I don't think I will ever regain for the medical industry.

That's why I am very leary of any vaccination/immunization of any kind.

So it's not in writing but yet these physicians are complaining that their reimbursement per RVU is dependent upon the percent of their patients that are vaccinated? Where are they complaining at? What about the physicians that aren't in primary or family care? So they just get the "rock bottom" rate?

Please elaborate more on the pharmaceutical kickback theory as well.

 

[HE>I]

I got the initial and follow-up shot. Know a number of people who got shingles and it's not something I wanted to experience.