@at1010 - K so it took a bit for me to locate the report - the local Ag guys I use let me a little befuddled with what they were advising. This is from last fall, The only plot I added lime to is Ski Jump (4.9 pH) 2000#/ acre pellitized lime and 2000# spreadable CalPro pulverized Limestone - BackPad came in 7.2 pH which seems a tad high for the last application of AgLime I made. Prolly just me getting samples from the first couple inches as I don't till of disk - one of the reasons is it's a strip mine spoil bank, first sample was in the low 5's in 2016.
So I keep a ~ kinda journal on the plots in the Google Earth - it really helps me keep track of the progress and what the heck I did. THis is the history of BackPad - just a semi-mowed/brushhogged field until 2016.
Summer 2016
225# 5-14-42 2016 1/2 Brassicas and 1/2 chicory and Greens
Feb 2017
Leaves Blown
Red/white alfalfa chicory #100 4-15-42
Aug/Set 2017
50#/ 50# Rye/ Winter Wheat
pH 5,2 - added 1800# Ag Lime, 31# 11-52-0, 75# 0-0-60
Mar 2018
Leaves Blown
spot frost seed Red/white alfalfa chicory
Aug 2019
pH 6.3 - added 1250# Aglime/Acre
2020
Mar leaves Blown
pH 7.2
May 5oz IMOX
July Gly +24De
Aug Gly +24De
Sep 14 burn Add N-P-K
200# Rye
Oct 8 200# Rye
2021 - Ultimate no till JS
Split in two -
3 Feb - Frost Seeded switchgrass
June 15 50#/buckwheat/acre sprayed with Gly Harrow before and after
Aug 11 sprayed reamining buckwheat with Gly
Brassica side sowed 3#/acre brassica mix /6# acre tillage raddish /acre
Greens side Greens side 25# oats/60# winter peas /acre
Sep 10 Greens side 200# Rye, spread 100#/acre urea 46-0-0 so 46# of N/acre
Oct 14 Total plot failure - 230#/acre rye
For simplicity This is the link to the Soil report and lime I put down:
https://theohiooutdoors.com/threads/easy-ag-lime-via-atv-spreader-yes-its-a-thing.26805/
This soil sample is from June 2020
We added the DAP MAP and UREA at the recommended rate and didn't add in the removal rate.... This is the Co-op agronomist recommendation based on the samples above.
So Dr.
@at1010 It hurts when I do all this work and gets shitty results....
-- I'm just requesting your input/opinion brother -- It's mine to try and fix. Like I said I did the Exact same thing on FrontPad and BackPad, both well pads, both old strip mine spoil banks that got opened up (Leveled) to make a well pad. much different results!
Many of my other plots that I've planted are doing great but this one, BackPad is just a disaster - right smack in the middle of where I need the draw/movement. Not sure my application of rye last week will help for that but I will hopefully get some OM in and be able to get a good catch in the spring.
Along the line on deer numbers/ Carrying Capacity - the Outfitter North (2000 acres of woods 400 hundred of reclaimed strip mine tops - poor grass) and 400 acres South 300 acres woods and 100 acres recalimed strip mine tops - 50% better as a farmer has managed it for five years for hay. 540 acres to the West 40 acres of prime hay and 12 acres great plots ( thats the neighbor I share chores and such with), my 100 with 4 acres of plots.
In that contiguous 3440 a total of 12 does were shot last year. Mine(2) and my neighbor(10) - there is no way to limit the 'herd' short of a high fence. The properties N and S don't shoot does, So with my plots I must plant something specifally browse tolerant for the outcome I want, the diversity blends Spring and Fall Winter are catching my attention.