Survey

[MK111]

I favor the pistol-rilfe concept. However it don't feel it would increase the hunter number much. Sure you would get some new shooters but most of the new shooteres would come out of the current shotgun users.
I could be wrong. I used the Ruger 44 mag rifle couple times years ago on crop permits and it was just a fun tool for me. But I shoot almost all the deer with a 44 mag pistol. I even used a 45-70 Marlin leveraction rifle one time just to use it.
I could see the straightwall rifle rounds like 45-70 in single shot rifles being approved before the multi-shot pistol-rifle. But I have been wrong before.
Frank

 

[DJK Frank 16]

I don't see a reason why not. I guess I just don't see that many guys that are not currently a deer hunter that are sitting around with a PCR sitting in their gun cases saying "damn as soon as Ohio opens up a PCR season I'm gonna start deer hunting". I think a lot of guys will carry this in place of an existing weapon they are currently hunting with.

I'm with Huck though, we don't need another season just for this weapon.

 

[Buckmaster]

I see it as another fun way to hunt.

 

[Jackalope]

I don't see a reason why not. I guess I just don't see that many guys that are not currently a deer hunter that are sitting around with a PCR sitting in their gun cases saying "damn as soon as Ohio opens up a PCR season I'm gonna start deer hunting". I think a lot of guys will carry this in place of an existing weapon they are currently hunting with.

I'm with Huck though, we don't need another season just for this weapon.

I bet once upon a time bowhunters said the same about the crossbow. Who that's not currently a deer hunter is sitting around with a crossbow in their safe? The same could be said for inline muzzys, smokeless, rifled shotgun barrels and sabots. You have to look beyond "today".. I have no problem with PCRs.. But I think they should be limited in scope so as not to flood the woods and jump the kill. The point is.. There is a big difference in appeal when it's 1 rd vs 11.. every caliber allowed vs limited etc..

Increased opportunity = success / success = increased kill

 

[DJK Frank 16]

Increasing the success rate vs. another weapon and increasing the number of new hunters in the woods are two different things. I'm not saying it may be easier or not killing one with a PCR.

My point was, do you think we will gain that many BRAND NEW deer hunters in Ohio because of a PCR allowance? I think if it is allowed and used during regular gun season, guys that are usually toting a slug gun or a muzzleloader may or may not pickup a PCR. I just don't see it attracting that many new guys...

 

[COB-TY]

With the abundance of ways and equipment to kill deer now, NO, another way is not needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

["J"]

Bottom line we're not asking for anything that the majority of the states around us have the opportunity too use.... and we'll still be limited at that....

 

[Hedgelj]

I have been involved with the Buckeye Firearms Assoc (BFA) pistol caliber carbine project for a few years now. So I will attempt to give some of the perspective we have had in regards to the proposal.

The same calibers are already allowed to be used to hunt with, its merely the platform that is being singled out. In that way its the same as saying the difference between a bolt action .223 and a bushmaster is a hunting rifle and an assault weapon. They are not trying to include any new cartridges/calibers that are not already out there, just a new way to use them.

I personally think it would be a fun change of pace to not use my shotgun, or muzzy during the firearms season. In fact we are not asking for a new season either. Modern muzzleloaders, especially the smokeless ones easily are more accurate at distance and much more powerful as are some of the more modern shotgun sabot loads than any of the calibers in a pistol caliber carbine so no increased effectiveness. We are also proposing to maintain the 3 shot limit even though the ODNR's rationale is actually pretty weak with regards to why they changed.

Why then? One answer is why not? Another answer is to a reloader, you can practice a lot more with those calibers to become proficient than you can with a shotgun shooting slugs. Also, you can reload those as weak or as hot as the caliber will allow which could potentially make them much more new hunter/youth hunter friendly than other options. I know that I will probably start my son out with a reduced load in a a muzzleloader but if PCC were an option I would definitely look into that also.

I do think it could marginally increase hunter involvement which could impact hunters numbers. However I don't see it being a large impact over time, just as pistol hunters are not a huge impact in reference to the entire firearms season.

I don't believe that survey monkey is being done by BFA but I could be wrong. I know the last I heard the ODNR was open to the idea but concerned about hunter/landowner relations because they are afraid misinformation could lead to landowners thinking that the ODNR was opening up "all rifle calibers" and hunters would lose access. The ODNR also stated that BFA had to do a survey to prove otherwise before they would go further with the project. I know that we are looking into the impact it had in Indiana, as they just allowed Pistol caliber carbines only a season or two ago.

 

[hickslawns]

I do not oppose. I have hunted with a 44mag before and I probably will again some day. If allowed to use PCR's, I might entertain them as well simple to offer a new challenge to myself or just to mix it up. I feel most hunters will look at it the same. I agree to the opinion this will not be introducing a new group of hunters. Might pull some semi-retired deer hunters back into the woods but it doesn't mean a huge increase in harvest in my opinion.

 

[LonewolfNopack]

Voted no. I am against any regulation that will make our liberal deer season even more liberal.