The LINE UP
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Archery is ALL about consistency... No argument there. But to say a guy that's "lined up" has an easier time being consistent.... Ehhh, I don't know about that. You'd be hard pressed to completely sell me on that claim.
I would assume that would.be.good. when I tune my.bows I get then how I described on paper. Then I group tune with montecs and.field.points. my montecs group with my field points out to 80 yards.
Milo
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so you start tail left and go from there...what if i told you that you would never had to group tune again? Sounds like your at a starting point and your not really describing what you have because you leave paper and keep tuning.. if you ever what to make it easier let me know..
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Then don't buy it.
I'll continue to keep my ducks in a row so I don't have to wonder why they stray to the left or right. BTW, the IQ site works to show the shooter they are torqueing the same with each shot. Torque is a lot less of an issue for "in line" shooters. Apparently it's a pretty big deal for some or they wouldn't be making a widget to fix the issue.
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Milo
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the shooter can torque , but the bow torques also. that creates lateral nock travel. which is why FS's sights are a touch left of his string. you cannot apply hundreds of pounds of force on a string, pull it to the right so the vanes can clear them and not have something happen to the limbs and riser. Fixed roller guards are big torque inducers.
I guess my thought process is two different configurations shouldn't be hitting the same mark.... Although fletchings/vanes don't add much weight they change arrow flight....
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Eric, does the bow string travel in a straight line? With a release, does the arrow receive force through the nock on that same straight plane? With a release, there should be nearly NO side to side oscillation (and the reason we no longer use Berger buttons). Look at the plane/relationship between the string, arrow, and sight. All in line...the arrow travels in a straight line, arching up and down, not left and right. Pins should be aligned on that plane to catch that arc...not off to the side. If they are off to the side, it's due to the shooters form, or torque. Grab one of your bows. Line up the string on the arrow. Look at your sight. If it is off to the left of the tip of your arrow, torque the grip until it lines up....Wallaaaa. Now you know how much you torque the grip at full draw, and it is likely due to using a draw length a shade longer than you should! (which positions your release had farther back on your face and pulls the plane of the string to the right).
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Negative. As you compress the limbs the cams tilt in towards the roller/cable guard. The string does not travel in the same plane. The string will not end at full draw on the same plane it began. The only bows that happens on are shoot through systems. People way smarter than me even realize this. If you don't own a draw board you will not see it. It is very slight but it is there. The arrow does not have to leave the bow square or parallel to the riser to shoot good. You realize we are debating on essentially 1/16 or less than a inch.
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My bet is we aren't discussing 1/16th of an inch. Most would never notice 1/16th. I've seen them as far as 1/4" (and no, I did not measure). I'd guess 1/8th to be the minimum most would pay attention too.
This will make an interesting topic if we get together this spring...
This will make an interesting topic if we get together this spring...
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My bet is we aren't discussing 1/16th of an inch. Most would never notice 1/16th. I've seen them as far as 1/4" (and no, I did not measure). I'd guess 1/8th to be the minimum most would pay attention too.
This will make an interesting topic if we get together this spring...
You will be arguing against Rex darlington who has more archery bow patents than just about anyone else..but I will take your money ...
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Surely you don't think you'll get my money in a "skins" game... . I haven't shot much for the last 6 months, but my elbow is on the mend
. I haven't shot much for the last 6 months, but my elbow is on the mend
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Surely you don't think you'll get my money in a "skins" game...
I will afford you the gentlemanly opportunity to win your Pepsi back on the range after I prove your line theory incorrect. But no lip outta mason ...
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I will afford you the gentlemanly opportunity to win your Pepsi back on the range after I prove your line theory incorrect. But no lip outta mason ...
Fair enough on all accounts, but I'm afraid I may not be able to stiffle Mason.
. Seriously, we should gather up Shane and go to a shoot soon. I'll humbly bow out of the skins as its entirely possible it would be a bad investment on my part these days! I'll text Shane...
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Fair enough on all accounts, but I'm afraid I may not be able to stiffle Mason.
He is having a baby soon ...
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Hhhmmmm let me check. It's auction season real soon. I may not have a bow by then either.
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Ha! Hard to shoot 'em if'n ya aint got one. Having been gimped up, I'm in the mood to shoot. Mason has been shooting, thinks he's ready for the Junior Worlds. You can imagine what I've been hearing...."Get your bow old man, I'm gonna whip ya". If we get together, don't you dare mention any of this bow-tuning nonsense to him. He'll want me to twist wrenches on his and he doesn't need it!