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To many deer odnr

An hour of interesting reading. But, did it solve anything? We all have such varied ideas of what is proper in life, including deer hunting ethics and tactics. Some hunt over bait, I have before, for the last 10 years or more I have not. I think baiting should be banned, but this is just my opinion.

Some feel that crossbows should be banned, I'm on the fence about that as I must hunt with one. I do believe that crossbow users are more apt to "stretch" the capability of their weapon than a compound or traditional archer. I base this on conversations I've had with crossbow user that tell me they can easily take a deer at 70+ yards with the latest and greatest crossbows. Total nonsense in my opinion, yes it has been done, but that doesen't make it right IMO.

Some complain about NR hunters locking up big parcels of land, be assured residents do the same. And if a group of 5 or so like minded hunters can get together they can lease land at a reasonable cost. Fing enough with the same thoughts about hunting is the haed part. As BH said residents are more likely to want to fill the limit of tags at their disposal, again his and my opinion also.

I think the electronic tagging system is the biggest mistake the ODNR has made in recent years. To much ability to cheat the system. I will say as a landowner that uses a landowner tag cheating the tagging system would be so simple it isn't even funny. I could shoot a deer, attach my landowner tag, bring the deer home, process the deer and be on my merry way tomorrow to have my 3 landowner tags still to fill. I gaurantee you this is done time and again by some.

Let's talk youth season. I have nothing against this season, but it seems odd that youth hunters took more bucks than does this past weekend. Just seems odd, and I wonder if all these deer, buck or doe, were actually killed by hunters under 18. "Wow, five year old Timmy shot a B&C buck this morning at 220 yards with a straight walled rifle, can you believe it." Makes me wonder at times.

Does Ohio really need a 4 1/2 month archery season. I think archery season should end after the second gun weekend. This would at least give more of the pregnant does a chance to drop fawns in the spring.

And I must disagree with Brock about grown men sitting in a tent to hunt. No different than a grown man climbing a tree to gain an advantage over his quarry. And, I guess I'm the worst of the worst, sitting in my box blind with my Buddy heater hooked to my 20 lb propane tank running to keep me warm on those cold days lol.

I think the point of all this is that as hunters we are definately our worst enemy. We only agree to disagree, what a shame.
 

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Accessible land in southern Ohio has been culled of deer via over hunting and EHD. There are a small fraction of deer compared to 20 or 30 years ago, it is not even close. Urban and suburban deer are exploding, we’ve been watching this guy grow up over the last three seasons. All the tools for herd management are worthless where it is needed, and over hunting has depleted herds on accessible land.

I sent an email to ODNR about the problem, their reply was “approximately the same number of Bucks are harvested year over year so the herd must be the same”

I pointed out that technology has changed the game on harvest numbers: wicked-fast crossbows, cellular trail cams, straight wall rifles and ever increasing popularity of bait have made hunters more successful, yet the harvest numbers of bucks drifts slowly down.
Bottom line is they want low deer herds and high tag revenue, we are paying for our own demise, ODNR is pissing down our backs and telling us it is raining.
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