Who's shooting? Tuning? Tinkering?

[giles]

Food for thought...at what range does the heavier arrow pass the lighter arrow?

My set up works. It is proven by many of people. What I don’t like mostly is that I don’t fell like I can be careful enough with staying away from the shoulder. I don’t take far shots at all. So I personally would be fine giving up some speed for momentum.

But at what point am I hurting myself by creating more time for the animal to react?

My heads gonna explode!

 

[bowhunter1023]

There's no scientific answer to that given the significant number of variables contributing to the outcome of every shot we take at an animal. But, you can certainly do a lot of experimenting to build scenarios that match what you know to be true about your most likely scenarios. It's not an easy thing to 'cipher!

 

[giles]

Once I changed my point of impact, my deer harvest numbers increased majorly. Not sure why that isn’t enough for me. I haven’t wounded a deer with a bow in a few years now and that is great! That damn monkey is still on my back though. Maybe that humbling feeling is what has helped in my turn around. Maybe it’s the set up. Maybe it’s the confidence. Maybe it’s just luck. Maybe it’s all of these combined. Either way, I have a 100% success rate with my current set up and I’m looking for better.

I have had this set up deflect of ribs multiple times. Entry wounds be perfect with the exit 6-8” off. So far it has still worked out. But I know one of these times it isn’t. That is something I feel like I can change. I don’t even have a clue what my setup is currently. I could possibly be shooting a 800 grain set up? It could be 300?

F.O.C...

huh, wut...oh shit, someone stop me! I woke up @0136 this morning with all this on my mind and haven’t gone back to sleep yet. Obsessed would be the one word description.

 

[Redhunter1012]

Following along here. Im definitely moving up in arrow weight next year on my compound. What I've never given thought to is the xbow. With me limiting Greyson's setups to less than 25 yards, it makes too much sense not to increase his arrow weight

 

[giles]

I can’t find much info on the crossbows either. But it has to stay true, same thing, just faster.

 

[giles]

@Jackalope you went down this heavy arrow road. I never seen a write up of that path and how you ended up at 600+. Do you plan to keep that for deer now? Talk to me brotha! I’ve been following The Ranch Fairy.

 

[giles]

Here’s another good one. I’ve always been interested in the idea of a crazy heavy arrow for a crossbow. Today has been the day I’ve kinda fallen into the rabbit hole.

I wasn’t impressed with that doe I almost split in half this year. The arrow and broadhead did some massive damage, but it did so while moving around entirely to much. I feel like it could’ve been a different outcome if it wasn’t a 10’ shot. (I also wouldn’t have taken the shot had it not been so close)
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The guy in this post is the one I was texting you about @bowhunter1023

 

[OhioWhiteTails]

Better than a coyote den.....

 

[giles]

Better than a coyote den.....

I seen Raven was having a sale.

 

[Big_Holla]

Finally watched those videos Dave. Definitely an eye opener for those who have always shot light and fast. Hmmm now I’m thinking....

 

[giles]

Finally watched those videos Dave. Definitely an eye opener for those who have always shot light and fast. Hmmm now I’m thinking....

The rabbit hole is deep, Chuck!

The impact one really made my brain smoke. I went as far as to email him (he answered, just waiting for more info to share).

 

[brock ratcliff]

We shot the IBO Indoor Worlds today. Mason was lights on...for the most part. He shot two fives which will likely cost him in the final ranking. That’s the downside. The upside; he shot 19x’s on the 40 target course. This was an unknown yardage course, 45 yard max. We rarely shoot unknown yardage, and with the exception of two shots, he burned it up. Not bad at all for his first big shoot.
I sucked today. I can blame it on being bedfast all week due to gout or something in my knee. I was highly concerned that I wouldn’t even be able to drive him to the shoot. It felt good enough to go, so shooting was a huge blessing, even limping and miserable, it was a great time.
The final results won’t be known for a few days but I’d be willing to be those two bad shots put him out of the race.

 

[jagermeister]

@brock ratcliff where so they host the indoor worlds nowadays? I shot it a couple times when it was at the IX center in Cleveland. It was a lot of fun and a challenging shoot. At the IX, there were no pillars... just open floor space. That REALLY made yardage estimation a challenge.

 

[brock ratcliff]

I told him the exact thing yesterday, Jim.

They held it in an old Sears building in Columbus.

 

[Jackalope]

Freaking awesome Brock. That's some damn fine shooting.

 

[MoonLab]

That's pretty cool. Nice

 

[giles]

Went out and found my arrow from my buck today. It was only 10 yards past the shot like I expected, it was just 15-20’ off to the side. Opposite direction that the deer ran. So it changed it original path that much.

Did it work? Sure did.
Did the deer die right away? Sure did.
Did it do what I wanted? Sure did.
Am I happy? Sure.
Is there room for improvement? Sure is.
Am I satisfied? Nope.

Here’s pics of the heads. It’s never bothered me before because they cost $1 each. I’m a firm believer in “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” but this is different. Anyways...here, what do you think?

 

[bowhunter1023]

Hard to tell what bent the blade. Dead deer, that's what matters. Only logical conclusion is it's still a mechanical, which means it has room for failure.

 

[giles]

Hard to tell what bent the blade. Dead deer, that's what matters. Only logical conclusion is it's still a mechanical, which means it has room for failure.

I’d say a deer or something could’ve stepped on it in the last few months it’s laid out. Truth is, I’ve seen this before on much smaller deer.

 

[jagermeister]

Looks like every other Rage broadhead after it goes through a deer. Usually the end result is a dead deer, but it’s a one and done type of head. Most people don’t question their performance until after they bounce one off of a front shoulder.