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2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

Jackalope

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It will mutate, that's just a matter of time. Yeah, MERS with an R0 on par with COVID-19 would make what we're experiencing now look like a picnic.

Scary thought for sure. And not out of the realm of possibility. In the past 18 years we've had 3 new NCOVs.
 
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I'm sharing for those that might be interested so, please try not beat me up over the fact that I'm sharing it. Thank you!

People should be allowed to form their own opinions whether or not the following documentary is informative and/or relevant.

I'm half way through it at the moment and I believe it's worthy of my time so far.
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The Epoch Times - The first documentary movie on the origin of CCP virus, Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus.

[Exclusive investigative report] The first documentary movie on the origin of CCP virus(Coronavirus)



I wanted to followup on this particular post because apparently there's been plenty of controversy since the original debut of the documentary that I shared.

I've been following the original investigative reporter ever since and he has his own 'YouTube' channel where he discusses regularly the latest on the 'CCP Wuhan Virus', also known as 'CoVId-19', five days a week, Monday - Friday. The show is called, Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP .

Below are his latest two episodes that I believe is worth most anyone's time viewing, especially if you previously viewed the original documentary.

The episode named;'Who Fact Checks the 'Fact Checkers' On the Origin of the CCP Virus (Corona virus)?' , explains more about what I'm referring to regarding all the controversy. The other episode called; '2.9 Million CCP Virus (coronavirus) Cases In China?UK Warns China Exploiting the Crisis' , is also another good one to check out imo.

Approx. 25 minutes long.

Approx. 17 minutes long.

As I've mentioned before, I DO NOT watch any main stream news, with the exception of FOX NEWS on an occasion. As a matter of fact, it was Fox News that picked up on the same story as Joshua Philipp's documentary several days later. I believe someone here has already posted that Fox New report.

I get most of my news information from multiple alternative sources rather than through the television, and occasionally from a few of my smart networked cellphone/tablet applications, just in case anyone wishes to know. I personally try to stay far away from any of the mainstream news stories/narratives for what I believe are very obvious reasons.

Okay then, that's it...

Have a great evening everyone & take care!
 
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Jackalope

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The truth comes out on the CDC failure.



The CDC facilities that assembled the kits violated sound manufacturing practices, resulting in contamination of one of the three test components used in the highly sensitive detection process, the scientists said.

The cross contamination most likely occurred because chemical mixtures were assembled into the kits within a lab space that was also handling synthetic coronavirus material. The scientists also said the proximity deviated from accepted procedures and jeopardized testing for the virus.

The Washington Post separately confirmed that Food and Drug Administration officials concluded that the CDC violated its own laboratory standards in making the kits. The substandard practices exposed the kits to contamination.

The troubled segment of the test was not critical to detecting the novel coronavirus, experts said. But after the difficulty emerged, CDC officials took more than a month to remove the unnecessary step from the kits, exacerbating nationwide delays in testing, according to an examination of federal documents and interviews with more than 30 present and former federal scientists and others familiar with the events. Many of them spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment publicly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...ayed-rollout-of-coronavirus-tests/ar-BB12Q90W
 

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Promising results.

One third of participants in Massachusetts study tested positive for antibodies linked to coronavirus

The Mass. General study took samples from 200 residents on the street in Chelsea, MA. Participants remained anonymous and provided a drop of blood to researchers, who were able to produce a result in ten minutes with a rapid test.

Sixty-four of the participants tested positive – a “sobering” result, according to Thomas Ambrosino, Chelsea’s city manager.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/third-blood-samples-massachusetts-study-coronavirus
 

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Promising results.

One third of participants in Massachusetts study tested positive for antibodies linked to coronavirus

The Mass. General study took samples from 200 residents on the street in Chelsea, MA. Participants remained anonymous and provided a drop of blood to researchers, who were able to produce a result in ten minutes with a rapid test.

Sixty-four of the participants tested positive – a “sobering” result, according to Thomas Ambrosino, Chelsea’s city manager.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/third-blood-samples-massachusetts-study-coronavirus
I saw that. Would greatly lower the fatality percentage if that's true across the rest of the country. But that sample size is ridiculously small, so I'm holding out till more testing can be done.

The other problem is that this virus appears to be able to be contracted again - that getting it doens't guarantee you'll have immunity from it, so even if it's true I'm not sure it's something we should be celebrating till we know more about how easy it is to get it again after you've already had it. Maybe the 2nd (or 3rd?) time around is when the serious stuff that lands you in the hospital starts to happen. Who knows...

I'm sure a lot of people will be like, "see? this is proof that this thing was way overblown!" which would be a mistake. Too much evidence in the refrigeration trucks, piles of body bags, overwhelmed hospitals (in hot spots, granted), mass graves, incinerators running non-stop 24/7 in China, etc., etc. You can't fake that on a global scale.
 

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The longer the novel coronavirus circulates, the more unexpected symptoms pop up.

To name a few, ophthalmologists have said pink eye may be a rare sign of COVID-19, and anosmia, or a loss of smell, can occur in patients with no other symptoms. Coughing blood and tingling all over the body have also been reported.

Now, another condition possibly linked to the coronavirus has captured researchers' attention. Dubbed "COVID toes" by the dermatology community, it can look like "purple lesions" on feet or hands, Dr. Esther Freeman, a dermatologist at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, told TODAY.

The research is ongoing and rooted in "observation," Dr. Tracey Vlahovic, associate professor of podiatry at Temple University in Philadelphia, told TODAY. "There's no one-to-one correlation."

But because COVID toes may appear before or without other coronavirus symptoms, Freeman believes it should be a criterion for testing. Dr. Lindy Fox, professor of dermatology at University of California, San Francisco, agreed.
 

giles

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I believe they’re reasons people are going to the doctors. A week ago people were complaining about deaths not related to covid are being counted towards the death tally. Now, stubbing my toe could be a side effect of covid in California...
 
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I think you missed my point or I delivered it wrong. Point being, people are going to doctors for other reasons and finding out they have covid 19.

Example, I break my arm in a drunken accident with my stairs. I go in and they start asking me other questions about my health. Next thing you know I’m “likely” to have it or I’ve been tested. The arm being broke had nothing to do with covid. But it is what put me in front of medical professionals.
 
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I saw that. Would greatly lower the fatality percentage if that's true across the rest of the country. But that sample size is ridiculously small, so I'm holding out till more testing can be done.

The other problem is that this virus appears to be able to be contracted again - that getting it doesn't guarantee you'll have immunity from it, so even if it's true I'm not sure it's something we should be celebrating till we know more about how easy it is to get it again after you've already had it. Maybe the 2nd (or 3rd?) time around is when the serious stuff that lands you in the hospital starts to happen. Who knows...

I'm sure a lot of people will be like, "see? this is proof that this thing was way overblown!" which would be a mistake. Too much evidence in the refrigeration trucks, piles of body bags, overwhelmed hospitals (in hot spots, granted), mass graves, incinerators running non-stop 24/7 in China, etc., etc. You can't fake that on a global scale.


I think the reason for the vast majority of the issue is modern medicine has found a way to extend the life of people with chronic health issues far beyond what they normally would have lived in the past. Pills for high blood pressure, diabetes medicine, asthma is manageable, heart issues are treatable, cancer survival, organ transplants, etc.. Medical treatments for various health ailments have enabled people to live longer fuller lives. Now, something like this comes along and a lot of those people cant survive the strain. We can patch up a failing house foundation and keep it standing, but if a big storm comes along with 90 mph winds we're in trouble.
 

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I think the reason for the vast majority of the issue is modern medicine has found a way to extend the life of people with chronic health issues far beyond what they normally would have lived in the past. Pills for high blood pressure, diabetes medicine, asthma is manageable, heart issues are treatable, cancer survival, organ transplants, etc.. Medical treatments for various health ailments have enabled people to live longer fuller lives. Now, something like this comes along and a lot of those people cant survive the strain. We can patch up a failing house foundation and keep it standing, but if a big storm comes along with 90 mph winds we're in trouble.
Yeah, that's a good point. Evidence does seem to point there. Obesity, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, age, etc. all increase death risk (and type A blood - wtf's up with that?).