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Teacher Covid Vaccination
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Meanwhile my dad who is 80, has recently been diagnosed with asthma and wants the vaccine has been waiting for a couple of weeks now..... Same with my mom who is 77. I would think that the older generation and those at a higher risk should get the vaccine before teachers or politicians. But that's me...
They are completely showing their asses. Our union received some push back from the members because of their behavior, thankfully. The union leaders were going in a direction most of the teachers did not want to go, and some of the teachers without a backbone only wanted to union to do the fighting. Shitty situation, and the kids are suffering.
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To each their own. But the reports out of the medical systems show fewer than 50% of the eligible healthcare workers are willing to take the vaccine. Per Dewine 60% of Ohios nursing home staff declined the shot. 40% of the medical workers in the Chicago hospital system declined. More than 50% at the largest hopsital system in Houston have decliend. These are just the ones that hospital administrator have gone on record to report. Here's a clip from the NYT recently.
Health care workers are not all medically educated. About the same as the political divide in the country - different strokes for different folks - they way we are - i'm good with that
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Well it was somewhat a necessary evil based on their position. A lot of teachers unions stood on the back of covid to demand completely unrelated things like eliminating voucher systems, reducing STEM academies, and other public to private transfer systems, Many argued for more pay, better health benefits, elimination of Friday classes, etc. Many unions used covid as an excuse in an attempt to force additional bargaining by portraying teachers are super critical front line workers. A lot of teachers unions refused to go back to school and resume classes until their demands were heard or agreed to. They couldn't really push that narrative without also demanding that they should be vaccinated ahead of others. The two went hand in hand.
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Correct. Plenty of STNAs out there with little to no education. By in large however the vast majority of healthcare workers have a pretty solid understanding of vaccines and infectious diseases though and aren't morons by any stretch of the imagination. These are also the people who have seen the affects of COVID first hand on a daily basis. This isn't an issue unique to the US and its highly politicized covid environment They're seeing similar declination rates in the UK, Germany and other countries.
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Well when Democrats spend almost an entire year demonizing a president over a virus and having their liberal cronies at Pfizer wait until the day after the election to release the news of a vaccine there will be consequences. Sometimes it's not so easy to put the genie back in the bottle.
Keeping kids out of school shouldn't be a bargaining chip. The impact of the way unions have acted will be felt for years. My district has been overly generous in working with teachers who have special circumstances; living with/caring for high risk individuals, high risk themselves, etc. Our union still tried to go too far. And now, all of a sudden, with numbers still high, they've all of a sudden quit bitching. Don't understand it.
Hope the consequences don't hurt the folks to bad - dang we start talking medical stuff and it always ends up in the political stew pot - dang
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Well those actions by in large got a socialist with dementia elected as the presidet. I'd say the damage is done.
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Completely untrue.
The USA is the third most populous country in the world.
10th in deaths per million population, despite very liberal "Cause of death" determinations for basically anyone that died for any reason but had covid. Meaning the data is worthless for judging how good or bad a country is doing as compared to others if it's not standardized across nations.
6th in cases per million population. Fun fact China the largest country in the world, where this all started, is 207th in the world at cases per million people.. Wow! China is doing an awesome job at stopping the spread of covid. That or the more you test the worse it looks. Meaning the "number of cases" has shit all to do with how good a job a country is doing.
An honest way to get close is to look at real impact. Hospitalizations per million population.
The US sits at 16th in the world. Not bad for a country with the best medical services in the world who has for decades managed to keep really unhealthy people alive and treat many diseases and conditions that would have likely killed them years ago. (Read: vulnerable population) So even this data can be skewed if you have a larger population that has chronic health conditions that are being managed through medical treatment as compared to countries who don't and those people died of their existing conditions prior to covid.
that statement doesn't mean much if you don't believe the numbers are accurate or even correct. I say prove it.
there is so much corruption and variance in how these cases and deaths are reported nobody can possibly be sure that they are legitimate. I simply don't buy it.
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What we have unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you view it, Is a large vulnerable population. From the massive availability of elder care in nursing homes and assisted living facilities, people with managed conditions like asthma, high blood pressure, heart conditions, cancer survivors, organ transplant survivors, managed autoimmune diseases. Through the greatness of our medical system and availability of care we've been blessed to extend their lives beyond what it would have been if left untreated. These people have been given years and even decades on their lives thanks to medical advances and availability of care. Unfortunately something like Covid doesn't care about any of that. The larger your vulnerable population is the more people will die. It's just the shitty truth of it. Since the 30s advancements in medical science and availability of treatment has added on average 17 years to our lifespan. Covid will undoubtedly reduce that.
When you were born, your life expectancy was around age 58, and thankfully you are here with us well in to your 80s. Medical advancements are awesome, and I'm happy that you go the shot as it's a no brainier for our older and vulnerable population.