Live from Mississippi.

[Jackalope]

Damn oos’ers! Get the f out!

Now just wait a cotton pickin minute. I'm coast trash, get it right.

 

[Jackalope]

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Some other pics from my walk. Got a nice banana spider for @5Cent I'll mail it to you.

 

[Jackalope]

deeriest lookin pig I’ve ever seen, congrats

There were about 10 in the group. All of them about this size. Someone must have shot the big sow. Most were black, then a tricolor, but this poor bastard stepped in the gap first.

 

[Sgt Fury]

Do you need to be wary of poisonous snakes this time of year? I’m guessing gators are a year round problem but don’t know if the cold makes the snakes go hibernate somewhere underground.

 

[hickslawns]

Is that a bunch of lumber and a homemade tree stand in the third pic?

And don't mention gas station cashier's calling people "Suga." I had a flashback to this one time I ended up in Jackson, MS with you. Thought I was going to be taken hostage.

 

[triple_duece]

Do you need to be wary of poisonous snakes this time of year? I’m guessing gators are a year round problem but don’t know if the cold makes the snakes go hibernate somewhere underground.

Snakes aren’t a problem unless you’re fooling w them. Had a canebrake on the atv trail Friday as it was a 70 degree day. Gators are not an issue either once the water temp is 70, they can’t eat. Still have to respect natures creatures.

 

[Jackalope]

Do you need to be wary of poisonous snakes this time of year? I’m guessing gators are a year-round problem but don’t know if the cold makes the snakes go hibernate somewhere underground.

Not so much this time of year. Yesterday was cold with a high of about 60 but last night was a low of 40. Snakes hibernate but if it warms up to about 70 they may be out sunning. A little trick, I always pay attention to the lizards, If I start seeing lizards out sunning then I know snakes are probably doing the same thing. Even then they're super slow and lethargic though. Alligators don't hibernate but rather brumate. Which is similar to hibernation but they are still very much awake and aware of their surroundings. They require consistent temperatures above seventy to eat however because their digestion depends on body temperature. They usually crawl in a hole in the bank or something like that. You're more likely to walk right up on one or step through the top of a den when theyre brumating. Even then though they'll usually hiss if you get close. In the summer they usually skedaddle and hit the water to swim away.

 

[Jackalope]

Is that a bunch of lumber and a homemade tree stand in the third pic?

And don't mention gas station cashier's calling people "Suga." I had a flashback to this one time I ended up in Jackson, MS with you. Thought I was going to be taken hostage.

Yeah and old treated lumber stand someone made. I always like seeing those death traps made by the old timers.

I wouldn't have let big momma kidnap you. I might have let her hug and smash you into her giant boobs a little though.

 

[Jackalope]

Hmmmmm. While this is absolutely my go to bullet for muzzleloader whitetails, I may need to rethink it for hogs. I've dropped many deer in their tracks with a 240gr Hornady XTP HP. However I just found the bullet under the offside hide of this hog with no jacket. It was maybe a 50lb pig and I slung it with 150gr of triple 7. They've always blown through deer and hammered them hard. And yeah it dropped this pig, but I'm not so sure it would thump a big boar through the plate good enough for my liking. I may look for a solid cast bullet for muzzy season hogs.

 

[Sgt Fury]

Hmmmmm. While this is absolutely my go to bullet for muzzleloader whitetails, I may need to rethink it for hogs. I've dropped many deer in their tracks with a 240gr Hornady XTP HP. However I just found the bullet under the offside hide of this hog with no jacket. It was maybe a 50lb pig and I slung it with 150gr of triple 7. They've always blown through deer and hammered them hard. And yeah it dropped this pig, but I'm not so sure it would thump a big boar through the plate good enough for my liking. I may look for a solid cast bullet for muzzy season hogs.

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That is the exact same bullet I shot out of my muzzy…..I believe Dave has all of my old stock. I switched to Barnes copper.

 

[Sgt Fury]

Here‘s what I use now….

 

[Jackalope]

That is the exact same bullet I shot out of my muzzy…..I believe Dave has all of my old stock. I switched to Barnes copper.

What caused you to switch?
I love the bullet for whitetails and have never had an issue with them. I'd have zero hesitation on a 250 yard shot in open ground. And they've always performed and blown through even when hitting a spine. I think on a pig though that thick hide and fat layer just acts as a catchers mitt. I prefer exit holes so I'll need to find something new.

 

[Sgt Fury]

What caused you to switch?
I love the bullet for whitetails and have never had an issue with them. I'd have zero hesitation on a 250 yard shot in open ground. And they've always performed and blown through even when hitting a spine. I think on a pig though that thick hide and fat layer just acts as a catchers mitt. I prefer exit holes so I'll need to find something new.

Same reason you are looking for something else….bullets not passing through. It is a VERY accurate bullet, but many times the bullet would hit the opposite shoulder on a deer and not exit, leaving only one hole and a not so great blood trail.…especially when the entrance hole is up high (angling downward to the opposite shoulder). You’d have to wait until the lungs filled with blood and follow where the deer coughed out blood instead of the blood leaking from the hole. Always found the deer but the tracking was tougher (especially in the thick stuff) than it needed to be. These Barnes bullets will literally knock them off of their feet.

 

[Jackalope]

Same reason you are looking for something else….bullets not passing through. It is a VERY accurate bullet, but many times the bullet would hit the opposite shoulder on a deer and not exit, leaving only one hole and a not so great blood trail.…especially when the entrance hole is up high (angling downward to the opposite shoulder). You’d have to wait until the lungs filled with blood and follow where the deer coughed out blood instead of the blood leaking from the hole. Always found the deer but the tracking was tougher (especially in the thick stuff) than it needed to be. These Barnes bullets will literally knock them off of their feet.

That makes sense. I've always got an exit. But I've also aways shot them behind the shoulder. Except one that was high and hit the spine. The reason I love them so much is consistent accuracy. Beyond what most would think a muzzy is capable of. Maybe my gun just loves them but that muzzy is like witchcraft the way it shoots for me. You could have all of my high-power rifles before I'd part with that muzzy.

My other issue is jacket separation. To me that is unforgivable and a cardinal sin. I don't want to play copper shard hunter in my meat.

 

[giles]

Hmmmmm. While this is absolutely my go to bullet for muzzleloader whitetails, I may need to rethink it for hogs. I've dropped many deer in their tracks with a 240gr Hornady XTP HP. However I just found the bullet under the offside hide of this hog with no jacket. It was maybe a 50lb pig and I slung it with 150gr of triple 7. They've always blown through deer and hammered them hard. And yeah it dropped this pig, but I'm not so sure it would thump a big boar through the plate good enough for my liking. I may look for a solid cast bullet for muzzy season hogs.

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I believe this is what happened on that buck with those 180 Winchester in 350 legend. The inside of the ribcage had a bruise all the way down it. Made me look for an exit hole and there was a small one. It worked...but

 

[Hedgelj]

Hmmmmm. While this is absolutely my go to bullet for muzzleloader whitetails, I may need to rethink it for hogs. I've dropped many deer in their tracks with a 240gr Hornady XTP HP. However I just found the bullet under the offside hide of this hog with no jacket. It was maybe a 50lb pig and I slung it with 150gr of triple 7. They've always blown through deer and hammered them hard. And yeah it dropped this pig, but I'm not so sure it would thump a big boar through the plate good enough for my liking. I may look for a solid cast bullet for muzzy season hogs.

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You're pushing it TOO fast and you're getting jacket separation. I was running the 250gr XTPs and had that happen with 110gr triple 7.

I'm now running the XTPmags and have had the same great results but no jacket separation.

 

[Hedgelj]

more info

Hornady XTP muzzleloading bullet

 

[ThatBuckeyeGuy]

From my experience the xtps are designed to dump all energy inside the animal and from personal use they do it extremely well especially out of the 350 . The five kills I've had with it have completely grenaded the lungs on 4 of them all had exits but small like mentioned most energy was dumped inside. The doe I killed last year was a 50 yard heart shot and was the most insane blood trail I've ever had the pleasure of following . Bullets designed for a specific performance will be different out of every platform some for the better or some for the worse depending on muzzle velocity and distance and energy when hit

 

[Jackalope]

You're pushing it TOO fast and you're getting jacket separation. I was running the 250gr XTPs and had that happen with 110gr triple 7.

I'm now running the XTPmags and have had the same great results but no jacket separation.

Too fast. Is there such a thing? Ballistics Calc says I'm slinging it right at 1990 Fps.

Edit.. That's pretty fast actually.

Considering a 350 legend slings a 180gr projectile at 2100 fps and I'm pushing a 240gr bullet at 1990. And a 450bm pushes 250gr at 2200fps.

 

[Hedgelj]

Too fast. Is there such a thing? Ballistics Calc says I'm slinging it right at 1990 Fps.

Edit.. That's pretty fast actually.

Considering a 350 legend slings a 180gr projectile at 2100 fps and I'm pushing a 240gr bullet at 1990. And a 450bm pushes 250gr at 2200fps.

From the link i shared

Your bullet is only designed to handle up to 1800 fps.... faster leads to jacket separation and less than ideal terminal performance.