2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

[5Cent]

Wouldn't this be something:

The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxo. Who, by chance, owns Pfizer (the one who produces the vaccine.) Which, by chance, is managed by Black Rock finances. Who, by chance, manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (SOROS FOUNDATION). Coincidentally, he owns the German company Winterthur. Who, by chance, built the Chinese laboratory in Wuhan. Accidentally bought by the German Allianz. Which, incidentally, has Vanguard as a shareholder. Which is a shareholder of Black Rock. Which controls the central banks and manages about ONE THIRD of the global investment capital. Which, incidentally, is a major shareholder of MICROSOFT The property of BILL GATES, who happens to be a shareholder of PFIZER (which sells the miracle vaccine).

 

[Jackalope]

The flu vaccine is a dead virus. You cannot get the flu from the vaccination. Some people have side effects that appear as flu like symptoms.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/10-flu-myths#:~:text=MYTH: You can catch the,going to get sick anyway.

The Covid Vaccine is synthetic. I believe it tricks the body into creating antibodies.

Like I said I have no real clue as I am no medic. Just the way I understand medical articles like above.

Ah. Therein lies the semantics of when they say you can't get the flu from the flu vaccination. This is true. You will not be "infected" or "contagious". However, your body does produce an immune response where side effects are headache, fever, muscle aches, and nausea. Everything that your body does when fighting an active flu infection. Most of the symptoms of sickness of the flu are not caused by the virus itself but rather the immune response to the virus. So the shot didn't give you the flu as they can rightfully claim, but it can and often does give people all the effects of having the flu, but usually on a lesser scale. They like to say that it doesn't give you the flu, what they can not say honestly is it doesn't make you sick.

Unfortunately, they aren't able to make the same claim with the covid vaccination. Side effects are pretty much the same, and often is anytime you elicit an immune response. The covid vaccinations don't use dead or weakened virus DNA but rather a snippet of virus DNA to create the same spike protein that covid uses to attach to a cell and then destroy it. The theory being that if a covid spike protein tries to attach to a cell the immune system will destroy the protein. With that said they can claim that the vaccine is "synthetic". Well, anything that isn't completely natural and has been modified by man is "synthetic". Technically the flu vaccine is synthetic.

 

[Outside]

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines trick your body into making spike proteins, by injecting you with messenger RNA. Once your body makes sufficient quantities of the spike protein, your immune system can mount an antigenic response against it.

But because the vaccine is administered in two doses, 30 days apart, there is a period of time where a partially innoculated person could unwittingly transmit SARS-COV2 to others.

Personally, I think this concern (of continued transmission) is minor. I'm more concerned that with FDA's typical lethargic approval cycle, people at risk will needlessly perish.

It's unlikely that means virus tech doesn't work, given that at least two different vaccines had >90% success conferring immunity.

All too often we look at these organizations as groups who bend the rules at the risk to the public, for their own self interest.

As a person who has worked inside two of them, building plants to make various pharma products (Plaquenil, Vyvanse, Omnipaque), most often, internal QA nonsense (oversight) exceeds what regulation requires. Most of the manufacturing controls placed upon drugmakers are actually industry consensus standards, rather than laws. ICH Q7A being the best example.

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[md1]

Just a little update since this is crazy how it affects everyone differently. My in 80s old grand father had been admitted to charlevoix hospital with pneumonia covid was released after a relatively short stay (2day or less). My 91yr old grandma has felt sick and worn down but nothing serious. It's been a few weeks since they have tested positive now. My uncle and cousin are staying with them to get them back to health. This has been the worry of most in my family since the start, what if they get it.....as of now they are good.

 

[Geezer II]

Wouldn't this be something:

The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxo. Who, by chance, owns Pfizer (the one who produces the vaccine.) Which, by chance, is managed by Black Rock finances. Who, by chance, manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (SOROS FOUNDATION). Coincidentally, he owns the German company Winterthur. Who, by chance, built the Chinese laboratory in Wuhan. Accidentally bought by the German Allianz. Which, incidentally, has Vanguard as a shareholder. Which is a shareholder of Black Rock. Which controls the central banks and manages about ONE THIRD of the global investment capital. Which, incidentally, is a major shareholder of MICROSOFT The property of BILL GATES, who happens to be a shareholder of PFIZER (which sells the

Is this true or just - wonder if

 

[Geezer II]

Covid became the leading cause of death in the USA today

 

[Jamie]

bullcrap.

 

[bowhunter1023]

Covid became the leading cause of death in the USA today

As a marketing person, I was taught how to makes the #s say what I wanted them to say. This fact, in terms of total #s, does not factor in all of the co-morbidity, nor does it account for the decrease is traffic accidents and a host of other common killers that have less #s due to lockdown restrictions. It's a deceiving statistic.

 

[Geezer II]

As a marketing person, I was taught how to makes the #s say what I wanted them to say. This fact, in terms of total #s, does not factor in all of the co-morbidity, nor does it account for the decrease is traffic accidents and a host of other common killers that have less #s due to lockdown restrictions. It's a deceivin

Yeah i knw the numbers dont lie but ....... thing . - So what are the numbers today

 

[giles]

Whatever. I've tried to stay out of this thread but pure bullshit has drawn me back in. People WITH covid are dying. Covid isn't killing most of those people.

 

[Geezer II]

Whatever. I've tried to stay out of this thread but pure bullshit has drawn me back in. People WITH covid are dying. Covid isn't killing most of those people.

Well nothing i have said on this thread is my personal opinion - just passing on tv news - i don't have a bullshit dector so its hard to get the truth - watching fox now - don't run off - don't mean to offend anyone - sorry if i offended you

 

[giles]

Well nothing i have said on this thread is my personal opinion - just passing on tv news - i don't have a bullshit dector so its hard to get the truth - watching fox now - don't run off - don't mean to offend anyone - sorry if i offended you

You didn't run me off. Its just a very touchy subject and I have no filter. One minute I'm scared to death of this, the next its almost a joke. Not a good place for me to be ranting about. This is hitting very close to some and I think it will hit close to everyone before its over.

Covid being the leading "cause" of death is complete bullshit though.

 

[Jackalope]

Just a little update since this is crazy how it affects everyone differently. My in 80s old grand father had been admitted to charlevoix hospital with pneumonia covid was released after a relatively short stay (2day or less). My 91yr old grandma has felt sick and worn down but nothing serious. It's been a few weeks since they have tested positive now. My uncle and cousin are staying with them to get them back to health. This has been the worry of most in my family since the start, what if they get it.....as of now they are good.

It's crazy. My grandmother who is 94 and in a nursing home barely had any symptoms just lethargic and a fever. Her sister and he sisters husband both in the 80s died within a week of testing positive.

 

[Schu72]

I think this is day 14 for Dad. He's still symptomatic. He thinks his brother has it now. It's going to be a long winter.

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[Geezer II]

I think this is day 14 for Dad. He's still symptomatic. He thinks his brother has it now. It's going to be a long winter.

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Prayers

 

[hickslawns]

Well nothing i have said on this thread is my personal opinion - just passing on tv news - i don't have a bullshit dector so its hard to get the truth - watching fox now - don't run off - don't mean to offend anyone - sorry if i offended you

Don't worry about offending anyone. I appreciate your perspective on things. Even if I don't agree with everything, I want to hear varying opinions.

Just got back from being a pall bearer at my uncle's funeral. Yes. My uncle had diabetes. Yes. My uncle died. Yes my uncle died of Covid. His diabetes was very easily managed. His diabetes would not have killed him at 69yrs old had he not contracted Covid.

I don't feel it works this way with everyone. Lack of trust in the reporting is the issue. A friend of mine's mother was in her 90's. Being attended to by Hospice. Stated she was tired and ready to be done. Had shed most of her body weight. Had never been tested for Covid. She passed. Death certificate said Covid. THESE stories are the reason we can't believe shit they are saying.

 

[Geezer II]

Don't worry about offending anyone. I appreciate your perspective on things. Even if I don't agree with everything, I want to hear varying opinions.

Just got back from being a pall bearer at my uncle's funeral. Yes. My uncle had diabetes. Yes. My uncle died. Yes my uncle died of Covid. His diabetes was very easily managed. His diabetes would not have killed him at 69yrs old had he not contracted Covid.

I don't feel it works this way with everyone. Lack of trust in the reporting is the issue. A friend of mine's mother was in her 90's. Being attended to by Hospice. Stated she was tired and ready to be done. Had shed most of her body weight. Had never been tested for Covid. She passed. Death certificate said Covid. THESE stories are the reason we can't believe shit they are saying.

Sorry to hear about your uncle - condolences to you and your family -

 

[Clay Showalter]

Ok I have been meaning to post my covid story but haven’t felt like taking the time.

November 19 I feel a little tickle in my throat, nothing bad, as the days go on I get a little cough and runny nose. Never had a fever, just felt like the crud. So as I always do I kept my distance my mother who I am the primary caregiver. Also keep distance my wife and son. Also note I am obese and should be in a high risk, crazy how it affects everyone differently.

The days pass, we come for youth weekend, I feel like crap Sunday and sleep quite a bit. Drive home Sunday night, feel like I just have the crud, no fever, no aches, no dry cough, just a runny nose and productive cough, for which DayQuil helped.

Tuesday night I notice that I can’t smell and taste, which is really weird if you have never had it. So being responsible I go get a test on Wednesday.

I don’t go to thanksgiving, still staying away from my mom and others. Saturday comes and it has been 10 days since I had symptoms, I am coming to Ohio in a truck by myself. So I am not worried. I get test results back Saturday that I tested positive. I am past quarantine so I am not worried about infecting my son and others, plus we are staying apart as much as we can.

Now for the good part, I am doing an all day hunt on Monday, about 10:00 I get a phone call, they leave a message it is the local health department wanting to check on me and ask some questions. I am like ok I will call them back. So I am hunting and at 2:30 they call again, I am like really?

Almost immediately I get another call from another number, this time they don’t leave a message.

A few minutes later my wife text me freaking out.

The health department had the sheriff’s department call my wife looking for me !!!!!

She is like call this number and ask for this lady.

I called and I was like you mean to tell me because I don’t call you back in 5 hours you bother my wife at work? Really?

All they wanted to know was when did my symptoms start, who had I been around, had I traveled, I laughed said I am out of state now.

She said well you are clear to resume normal activities, it has been more than 10 days. I was like thank you.

Then they called for the next 2 days they call check on me and each time saying we will take you off the list.

I mean call the DAMN SHERIFF!!!!!

 

[Jackalope]

Don't worry about offending anyone. I appreciate your perspective on things. Even if I don't agree with everything, I want to hear varying opinions.

Just got back from being a pall bearer at my uncle's funeral. Yes. My uncle had diabetes. Yes. My uncle died. Yes my uncle died of Covid. His diabetes was very easily managed. His diabetes would not have killed him at 69yrs old had he not contracted Covid.

I don't feel it works this way with everyone. Lack of trust in the reporting is the issue. A friend of mine's mother was in her 90's. Being attended to by Hospice. Stated she was tired and ready to be done. Had shed most of her body weight. Had never been tested for Covid. She passed. Death certificate said Covid. THESE stories are the reason we can't believe shit they are saying.

Sorry to her this Hicks. My condolences buddy. That's the thing about this virus. We've enjoyed fantastic medical advancements in our lifetime that gave us the ability to manage chronic health issues and extended lives well beyond what they would have been without them. Covid is hard on people with chronic health issues, even ones that are well managed such diabetes, COOD, Asthma etc. Strangely enough diabetes is high on the list, even above things like asthma and other lung issues. Sorry to hear of your loss buddy.

 

[Jackalope]

Ok I have been meaning to post my covid story but haven’t felt like taking the time.

November 19 I feel a little tickle in my throat, nothing bad, as the days go on I get a little cough and runny nose. Never had a fever, just felt like the crud. So as I always do I kept my distance my mother who I am the primary caregiver. Also keep distance my wife and son. Also note I am obese and should be in a high risk, crazy how it affects everyone differently.

The days pass, we come for youth weekend, I feel like crap Sunday and sleep quite a bit. Drive home Sunday night, feel like I just have the crud, no fever, no aches, no dry cough, just a runny nose and productive cough, for which DayQuil helped.

Tuesday night I notice that I can’t smell and taste, which is really weird if you have never had it. So being responsible I go get a test on Wednesday.

I don’t go to thanksgiving, still staying away from my mom and others. Saturday comes and it has been 10 days since I had symptoms, I am coming to Ohio in a truck by myself. So I am not worried. I get test results back Saturday that I tested positive. I am past quarantine so I am not worried about infecting my son and others, plus we are staying apart as much as we can.

Now for the good part, I am doing an all day hunt on Monday, about 10:00 I get a phone call, they leave a message it is the local health department wanting to check on me and ask some questions. I am like ok I will call them back. So I am hunting and at 2:30 they call again, I am like really?

Almost immediately I get another call from another number, this time they don’t leave a message.

A few minutes later my wife text me freaking out.

The health department had the sheriff’s department call my wife looking for me !!!!!

She is like call this number and ask for this lady.

I called and I was like you mean to tell me because I don’t call you back in 5 hours you bother my wife at work? Really?

All they wanted to know was when did my symptoms start, who had I been around, had I traveled, I laughed said I am out of state now.

She said well you are clear to resume normal activities, it has been more than 10 days. I was like thank you.

Then they called for the next 2 days they call check on me and each time saying we will take you off the list.

I mean call the DAMN SHERIFF!!!!!

That's crazy man. Glad you got over it without any real issues.