2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)
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We're not out of the woods yet....
Look into the delta variant.
www.webmd.com
From sources i trust the deaths in India are running as high as 80/20 non- vaccinated vs vaccinated and its even harder on the elderly and other comorbidities.
Hopefully it's nothing, or else it's as if we're in January of 2020 all over again.
Look into the delta variant.
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From sources i trust the deaths in India are running as high as 80/20 non- vaccinated vs vaccinated and its even harder on the elderly and other comorbidities.
Hopefully it's nothing, or else it's as if we're in January of 2020 all over again.
Incorrect on many levels.
Yes the "death" rate is low but what about all the other issues some people who caught covid now have? This meme and others essentially negates their new chronic conditions to triviality.
Secondly the vaccine is mRNA.... it does nothing with your DNA it only makes a protein just lie the billions of strands of mRNA your body makes each day.
Mickey Merrie
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I saw that earlier today and was going to post it also. Liberal twitter went up in flames saying he was stirring hate against asians and spouting conspiracy theories. Can you imagine being so brainwashed to the party ilk that you don't even question the origins of a virus that has killed millions. They are quite literally ready to allow a communist nation to get away with the negligent murder of millions because of feelings.
Mickey Merrie
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Can't even understand a joke let alone take one! Oh how I wish Don Rickles was still around and Joan Rivers too!
Mickey Merrie
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Mickey Merrie
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On a not funny note...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
SHOCKING JUMP in Vaccine Deaths Reported This Week at CDC-Linked VAERS Tracking Website | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
There are more US deaths related to vaccines in 2021 in less than 5 months than there were the entire past decade.
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Mickey Merrie
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Well then you willl really boil brother!
And finally an Ohio guy that gets it regarding our weak underbelly...
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Via Children’s Health Defense Although accurate numbers are difficult to come by, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conservatively estimates more than a third of Americans …
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And finally an Ohio guy that gets it regarding our weak underbelly...
America Needs a Tourniquet Generation
by Coach Dave Daubenmire The battle in America is a very simple one. It is over Truth. Everything emanates from that key word. TRUTH. What IS the TRUTH? In fact, it is the same question Pontius Pilate asked before he sentenced Jesus Christ to death. What is THE Truth? That is
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Missing context. There is no evidence that the deaths reported to VAERS after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine are caused by the vaccine. Healthcare providers are required to report any death after vaccination to VAERS.
Mickey Merrie
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On top of that the VAERS numbers are not complete so could be under reported also. I don't dispute your point as each is a piece of that million piece jigsaw puzzle we are all trying to sort out. Only 20 20 hindsight from about 2025 on will tell the results. One of my thoughts on the graph is that there were more shots administered in 2020 then in prior years so statistically deaths would rise, but to that extent? Thus the shot warrants more scrutiny regardless.
This just shows again that the shots are a choice one must make with care full research particularly for those who have had prior health issues like clots or reactions to other shots.
Mickey Merrie
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But your point, while well taken, would apply to the prior reporting years as well wouldn't it?
Anyone can report an adverse event to VAERS. Healthcare professionals are required to report certain adverse events and vaccine manufacturers are required to report all adverse events that come to their attention.
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Chinese-language anti-communist media and Twitter are abuzz this week with rumors that a vice minister of State Security, Dong Jingwei defected in mid-February, flying from Hong Kong to the United States with his daughter, Dong Yang.
Dong Jingwei supposedly gave the U.S. information about the Wuhan Institute of Virology that changed the stance of the Biden Administrationconcerning the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Dong is, or was, a longtime official in China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS), also known as the Guoanbu. His publicly available background indicates that he was responsible for the Ministry’s counterintelligence efforts in China, i.e., spy-catching, since being promoted to vice minister in April 2018. If the stories are true, Dong would be the highest-level defector in the history of the People’s Republic of China.
Dong’s defection was raised by Chinese officials last March at the Sino-American summit in Alaska, according to Dr. Han Lianchao, a former Chinese foreign ministry official, before defecting after the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. In a Wednesday tweet, Han, citing an unnamed source, alleged that China’s foreign minister Wang Yi and Communist Party foreign affairs boss Yang Jiechi demanded that the Americans return Dong, and U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken refused.
Former Pentagon, State Department and CIA expert Nicholas Eftimiades, author of Chinese Espionage: Operations and Tactics, called the report “exactly what it is, a rumor. It happens all the time” in the information warfare between Beijing and anti-communist overseas Chinese. But he called Dr. Han, a pro-democracy activist with the Washington, D.C.-basedCitizen Power Initiative for China group, “a straight shooter, not known to exaggerate in any way or form… trusted for his integrity.”
Mollie Saltskog, a senior intelligence analyst with The Soufan Group who earned a master’s degree in global affairs from Tsinghua University in Beijing, also urged caution, saying the rumors of defections surface regularly. “While significant and certainly useful for our intelligence efforts,” she added, “one high-level defection will not drastically change our understanding or approach to China. In short, if true, this is potentially significant but not a game changer.”
The State Department did not respond to a request for comment by press time. It typically does not comment on defectors. A half dozen experts on Chinese intelligence queried by SpyTalk said they had no information to share on Dong’s alleged defection.
Chinese-language press stories also claim that Dong’s daughter Yang defected with him from Hong Kong on or about Feb. 10. She is allegedly the former spouse of a senior Alibaba executive, Jiang Fan, who heads TMall, China’s big Amazon-like business.
Without naming Dong, the pro-Trump web site Red State reported June 4 on a high-level defection from China, saying the Defense Intelligence Agency had received information from him that Beijing is covering up biological warfare research at the Wuhan lab, and advanced its story to question the integrity of Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
“Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID)personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector,” it said.
According to the authoritative Paris-based newsletter Intelligence Online, Dong is “close to” Chinese President Xi Jinping. “He previously headed the Guoanbu in the region of Hebei, which has produced many of Xi's securocrats,” the publication reported in 2018. Back in 2010, IO reportedthat Dong carried out orders from superiors in Beijing to arrest “four Japanese employees of the Fujita Corporation who were filming in a forbidden military zone.” The move was seen at the time as a power play by State Security against then-President Hu Jintao.
Meanwhile, the Chinese State Council’s official web page listing the top personnel in the Ministry of State Security no longer lists any vice ministers working under MSS minister Chen Wenqing. Under “personnel developments,” it notes the corruption investigation against another former vice minister, Ma Jian, who was sentenced to life in prison in 2018. The vice minister section is blank.
Co-published with SpyTalk, where Jeff Stein leads an all-star team of veteran investigative reporters, writers, and subject-matter experts who will take you behind the scenes of the national security state. Subscribe to get full access to the newsletter and website.
Dong Jingwei supposedly gave the U.S. information about the Wuhan Institute of Virology that changed the stance of the Biden Administrationconcerning the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Dong is, or was, a longtime official in China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS), also known as the Guoanbu. His publicly available background indicates that he was responsible for the Ministry’s counterintelligence efforts in China, i.e., spy-catching, since being promoted to vice minister in April 2018. If the stories are true, Dong would be the highest-level defector in the history of the People’s Republic of China.
Dong’s defection was raised by Chinese officials last March at the Sino-American summit in Alaska, according to Dr. Han Lianchao, a former Chinese foreign ministry official, before defecting after the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. In a Wednesday tweet, Han, citing an unnamed source, alleged that China’s foreign minister Wang Yi and Communist Party foreign affairs boss Yang Jiechi demanded that the Americans return Dong, and U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken refused.
Former Pentagon, State Department and CIA expert Nicholas Eftimiades, author of Chinese Espionage: Operations and Tactics, called the report “exactly what it is, a rumor. It happens all the time” in the information warfare between Beijing and anti-communist overseas Chinese. But he called Dr. Han, a pro-democracy activist with the Washington, D.C.-basedCitizen Power Initiative for China group, “a straight shooter, not known to exaggerate in any way or form… trusted for his integrity.”
Mollie Saltskog, a senior intelligence analyst with The Soufan Group who earned a master’s degree in global affairs from Tsinghua University in Beijing, also urged caution, saying the rumors of defections surface regularly. “While significant and certainly useful for our intelligence efforts,” she added, “one high-level defection will not drastically change our understanding or approach to China. In short, if true, this is potentially significant but not a game changer.”
The State Department did not respond to a request for comment by press time. It typically does not comment on defectors. A half dozen experts on Chinese intelligence queried by SpyTalk said they had no information to share on Dong’s alleged defection.
Chinese-language press stories also claim that Dong’s daughter Yang defected with him from Hong Kong on or about Feb. 10. She is allegedly the former spouse of a senior Alibaba executive, Jiang Fan, who heads TMall, China’s big Amazon-like business.
Without naming Dong, the pro-Trump web site Red State reported June 4 on a high-level defection from China, saying the Defense Intelligence Agency had received information from him that Beijing is covering up biological warfare research at the Wuhan lab, and advanced its story to question the integrity of Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
“Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID)personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector,” it said.
According to the authoritative Paris-based newsletter Intelligence Online, Dong is “close to” Chinese President Xi Jinping. “He previously headed the Guoanbu in the region of Hebei, which has produced many of Xi's securocrats,” the publication reported in 2018. Back in 2010, IO reportedthat Dong carried out orders from superiors in Beijing to arrest “four Japanese employees of the Fujita Corporation who were filming in a forbidden military zone.” The move was seen at the time as a power play by State Security against then-President Hu Jintao.
Meanwhile, the Chinese State Council’s official web page listing the top personnel in the Ministry of State Security no longer lists any vice ministers working under MSS minister Chen Wenqing. Under “personnel developments,” it notes the corruption investigation against another former vice minister, Ma Jian, who was sentenced to life in prison in 2018. The vice minister section is blank.
Co-published with SpyTalk, where Jeff Stein leads an all-star team of veteran investigative reporters, writers, and subject-matter experts who will take you behind the scenes of the national security state. Subscribe to get full access to the newsletter and website.
I see good and bad in your post, Sam. Be nice to have the news reported factually and allow us to interpret it. Sounds like it is unconfirmed at the moment but likely.
