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2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

You can't make this stuff up folks...



No go do what they tell you to do...

 
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The Department of Veterans Affairs will require its frontline health care workers to be vaccinated against COVID-19, a move that comes as vaccine mandates from employers are on the rise.

“I am doing this because it’s the best way to keep our veterans safe, full stop,” Denis McDonough, the secretary of Veterans Affairs, told The New York Times in an interview.

The move will apply to 115,000 employees who have the most "patient-facing," the Times reported, and they will have eight weeks to get the shots if they have not already.
 
The Department of Veterans Affairs will require its frontline health care workers to be vaccinated against COVID-19, a move that comes as vaccine mandates from employers are on the rise.

“I am doing this because it’s the best way to keep our veterans safe, full stop,” Denis McDonough, the secretary of Veterans Affairs, told The New York Times in an interview.

The move will apply to 115,000 employees who have the most "patient-facing," the Times reported, and they will have eight weeks to get the shots if they have not already.
Lots of worker’s compensation claims coming their way…..
 
Seeing a shift in vaccination attitudes by some state governors

I think you would be hard-pressed to find a single governor who said the vaccine is garbage or discourages people from taking it. Here in MS which is the lowest vaccination rate state our governor encourages people to get vaccinated and maintains a website where anyone that wants one can get one for free. What he is against is social mandates and the government using private sector businesses to extend the state and federal influence beyond their constitutional limits. Such as encouraging employers and businesses to require vaccines by providing legal shelter if they do so. The whole lockdown, mask, and vaccination push was to reduce the risk of unnecessary deaths due to the potential to overload hospitals and reduce the quality of care. The whole "Flatten the curve". Well it's been flattened, at no time has MS ran out of hospital resources, the survivability rate now vs the early pandemic is far higher, and the vaccine is widely available to anyone who wants it. A core belief in freedom of choice is not the same as being anti-vaccination. This is a state where " live free or die" isn't just a slogan on a license plate.
 
I think you would be hard-pressed to find a single governor who said the vaccine is garbage or discourages people from taking it. Here in MS which is the lowest vaccination rate state our governor encourages people to get vaccinated and maintains a website where anyone that wants one can get one for free. What he is against is social mandates and the government using private sector businesses to extend the state and federal influence beyond their constitutional limits. Such as encouraging employers and businesses to require vaccines by providing legal shelter if they do so. The whole lockdown, mask, and vaccination push was to reduce the risk of unnecessary deaths due to the potential to overload hospitals and reduce the quality of care. The whole "Flatten the curve". Well it's been flattened, at no time has MS ran out of hospital resources, the survivability rate now vs the early pandemic is far higher, and the vaccine is widely available to anyone who wants it. A core belief in freedom of choice is not the same as being anti-vaccination. This is a state where " live free or die" isn't just a slogan on a license plate.
Right - some are ramping up the encouragement for vaccinations -
Kay Ivy had some tough words for the uncaccinated - dang
 
Wife's friend, who's a VA nurse for over 10 years in Chillicothe was told just the other day, mandatory vaccination or you will lose your job. Her personal health doctor strongly advised her NOT to get vaccinated last year because of her severe allergies and some other type health condition. She intends on resigning from her job sometime within the 8 weeks, sometime before the deadline.

How sad!

And @Mike , thanks for sharing your latest video. I'll be sharing that far and wide!
 
Wife's friend, who's a VA nurse for over 10 years in Chillicothe was told just the other day, mandatory vaccination or you will lose your job. Her personal health doctor strongly advised her NOT to get vaccinated last year because of her severe allergies and some other type health condition. She intends on resigning from her job sometime within the 8 weeks, sometime before the deadline.

How sad!

And @Mike , thanks for sharing your latest video. I'll be sharing that far and wide!

Why in the fuck would she resign. Make them fire her, claim unemployment, and file suit for damages under ADA due to an existing health condition and advice from her doctor. If she quits she can't do any of that. Better yet lawyer the fuck up right now.
 
Why in the fuck would she resign. Make them fire her, claim unemployment, and file suit for damages under ADA due to an existing health condition and advice from her doctor. If she quits she can't do any of that. Better yet lawyer the fuck up right now.
Hey, that's what the wife just told not even 10 minutes ago. I agree with you and told the wife pretty much the same. So, we'll see what happens and I'll try to follow up on the situation.
 
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Right - some are ramping up the encouragement for vaccinations -
Kay Ivy had some tough words for the uncaccinated - dang

Oh no doubt she did. She's playing a dangerous game though saying it's time to blame the unvaccinated population, and that the unvaccinated are letting everyone down. It's never wise to whip up hate from 34% of the population and say they should blame the other 66% of the population in your state.

Here is what I find really interesting. There are less vaccinated people in Al than there are people who voted against her and for a democrat. 34% vaccination. 40% voted democrat. 36% voted for Biden to include 89% of African Americans.

So let's look at the numbers. The lack of vaccinations appears to be with the 18-49 age group of African Americans.

The Governor of Alabama better be careful blaming all those young African Americans and saying it's time to point the finger at them. Some old white lady in the deep south might find herself on the wrong side of that spin.

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Why in the fuck would she resign. Make them fire her, claim unemployment, and file suit for damages under ADA due to an existing health condition and advice from her doctor. If she quits she can't do any of that. Better yet lawyer the fuck up right now.
Got more insight of the story last night before I went to bed.

Apparently, the lady (wife's friend) said that she spoke to her boss about her concerns. Apparently, he said that people with religious or medical issues will be exempt from having to get the vaccine however, there are many that she works with hoping that their union will soon sue because the vaccines are still under the EAU and not officially FDA approved. It's a ongoing heated debate with many discussions on her FB page and there are several others that have chimed in stating that they will sue if terminated for refusing to get vaccinated. I get the impression that the VA support staff is becoming somewhat unglued over this entire issue and it appears to me that things have gotten quite political at their workplace.

So regardless, I do feel bad for all those that are facing that kind of dilemma today. The wife's friend is near the tail end of her work career and was intending on retiring in a few years, but now she's reconsidering that.

I will follow up with the wife from time to time just to see how this all plays out. I do not have FB so, I'll have to check in with her to get the latest information and updated details. I personally do not know the lady, the wife went to HS with her back in the day, but I am quite interested how this will effect her and others that provide care for veterans.
 
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Says I have too log in too view it, Sam….
me too now. Basically it talked about the government sending mixed messages: the vaccines are safe but we won’t give full approval in case they aren’t. It referenced the earlier mixed messages on masks. It blamed scientists and government health experts for causing much of vaccine hesitancy.