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2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

Yet we have vaccinated people showing symptoms, testing positive, and needing medical care all over the country and the CDC is in full panic mode. A rise in infections among the unvaccinated are expected, they did not expect this.

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I love how they keep moving the goalposts. Gives Imunity, prevents infection, prevents symptomatic infection, prevents hospitalization.

Not contagious, rarely contagious, minorly contagious, oh shit put your mask back on.


Now don't get me wrong. There is a TON of data that shows the vaccine is effective, especially with the elderly and those with health issues. But it's nowhere near the silver bullet that made it out to be

Yep but its kinda the only bullet out there - take whats the best shout for you
 
All that I’m hearing is those vaccinated are showing positive 🤷🏻‍♂️

I can tell you in our area, if people are having symptoms, they definitely are not getting tested unless they are required to.

I don’t believe a damn thing I hear, which makes it hard to take anything serious anymore. Does a covid test detect delta? One network says yes, the other says no. Will a booster be needed to help with the 3rd “wave”? Has there been any reliable data for either side? It’s such a shit-show.
5+ years from now covid will still be here, with new variants, and those vaxxed and non-vaxxed will still be getting it
 
Yep but its kinda the only bullet out there - take whats the best shout for you

The problem is they've taken the flu shot "everyone approach." Not everyone needs an experimental vaccine. 40% of people have zero symptoms. Most people simply have cold / flu like symptoms. With as much data as we have by now they should absolutely be able to ascertain who is at risk and should get the vaccine. But they don't care about that, their agenda is to get that needle in as many arms as possible, man woman and child. That doesn't sit well. They say "listen to the science" but they're obscuring and censoring all the science that would allow people to make an informed and logical decision for themselves. Not everyone needs a flu shot, despite them saying everyone should get a flu shot.
 
Seems we forget that it’s a flu…. This shot is just that, a shot not a “vaccine”….. Vaccines prevent diseases, this shot is nothing more than a glorified annual flu shot that may, or may not work for you….. It may lessen the severity of it, but it doesn’t prevent it…. Like Joe stated, if you’re healthy for the most part you won’t need it, if you’re health is compromised? Get the shot for piece of mind and maybe it’ll lessen the symptoms of the flu….. You know, like any other flu….
 
Seems we forget that it’s a flu…. This shot is just that, a shot not a “vaccine”….. Vaccines prevent diseases, this shot is nothing more than a glorified annual flu shot that may, or may not work for you….. It may lessen the severity of it, but it doesn’t prevent it…. Like Joe stated, if you’re healthy for the most part you won’t need it, if you’re health is compromised? Get the shot for piece of mind and maybe it’ll lessen the symptoms of the flu….. You know, like any other flu….

Not to get all semantics, but before someone begs to differ with your point over a technicality. covid is a coronavirus the same as a cold but influenza is a different family of viruses. But your point remains the same. For most people they'll have what they think is a cold or flu.
 
After 5 days of being in the same household w my wife and youngest son that have it, we both test negative and we are at work. The wife and Hunter both have minor symptoms at this time but feel like shit.
I trust the data that we have been keeping at our department of 187 employees plus family
 
Yep but its kinda the only bullet out there - take whats the best shout for you
And for what it's worth- if I was in your age bracket, there is a higher chance of me getting the vaccine. I don't blame you at all. But I still don't trust much of what I read or listen to about it. Therein lies the problem the nation is having. We need some straight poop from the politicians and media.
 
And for what it's worth- if I was in your age bracket, there is a higher chance of me getting the vaccine. I don't blame you at all. But I still don't trust much of what I read or listen to about it. Therein lies the problem the nation is having. We need some straight poop from the politicians and media.

Agreed. No doubt in my mind, hell, I probably would have been first in line.
 
And for what it's worth- if I was in your age bracket, there is a higher chance of me getting the vaccine. I don't blame you at all. But I still don't trust much of what I read or listen to about it. Therein lies the problem the nation is having. We need some straight poop from the politicians and media.



Just my 2 cents - we need the media and politicians to shut the fuck up - "just the facts ma'am"
 
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They want people to get the vaccine but yet they keep the blabbering mouth Fauci in there as their spokesperson. Don't they realize the people they are trying to convince are the same people who think Fauci is a turd?! With all the talk of mandating it in work places and all it's no wonder people are getting more skeptical. Heck people who got the vaccine are wishing they hadn't fallen for the hype just yet and wondering if anything bad will come their way before long.
 
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Now here is a very honest interview with the local hospitals infections disease specialist here. Our Covid numbers are skyrocketing here. But it was refreshing to her this guys take, especially on masks and vaccinations. In a world where everything is doom gloom and blown up I didn't see any spin and he laid it out there honestly. His part starts about 1:15 in.