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Dannmann801

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Dan are you talking about the one on the bottom? MAC address lookup shows "select comfort" as the vendor. Do you have a sleep number bed by chance? If so it probably has a Bluetooth connection you can connect to on your phone.
HOLY SHIT I'M NOT A BLUETOOTH DEVICE!! WOO HOO!
You're my hero -
Yep, the wife's phone is hooked up to the bed, but I never did that
 

Jackalope

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If patient is symptomatic they are tested. All patients before being admitted are tested for covid regardless of why theyre being admitted. There is a lot of people who get admitted for something unrelated to covid, get swabbed and come back positive but are just asymptomatic. No admissions are labeled positive without testing.

That's pretty much what the Harvard and VA study found also. 40-45% of admissions were for either unrelated causes and a patient tested positive as part of the admission process, or positive patients with other risk factors who are admitted for observation. Unfortunately, this makes data rather unreliable. For example, if a person with other risk factors tests positive but is vaccinated will they be admitted for observation at the same rate as someone who is unvaccinated. If not, then the signal drum of XY% of hospital patients are unvaccinated becomes a compromised metric. Or "the vaccine is XY effective at preventing hospitalization".
 
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Jackalope

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Yet they mention nothing where study after study has shown that natural immunity is more durable and proficient.

" Pfizer -- and other researchers -- say their studies show people develop strong immunity after two doses of vaccine, but that levels of antibodies start to drop after a few months."
 

Tipmoose

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Yet they mention nothing where study after study has shown that natural immunity is more durable and proficient.

" Pfizer -- and other researchers -- say their studies show people develop strong immunity after two doses of vaccine, but that levels of antibodies start to drop after a few months."
*Steve puts on his mol-bio-geek hat*
Yep. Its almost always better to survive a natural infection than it is to rely on vaccination. I don't really understand the consternation around the Pfizer quote though. Of course antibody levels fall after a few months. Most all circulating antibodies have a half life of 30 days or so. What would worry me is if concentrations of memory T and B cells dropped after a few months. Those things are what trigger our adaptive immune response and have a half life of 450 days or so.
 
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Smawgunner2

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Why isn't anyone talking about this....turn on or read any liberal media and all you hear are hospitals are at max capacity. Under Trump...he created field hospitals, had Red Cross ships at the ready, auto makers were making ventilators etc etc. What has Biden done?....point the finger. It's on them as far as I'm concerned. Stop your bitching and act.
 
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Jamie

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because it doesn't fit the narrative. they have to milk these seasonal outbreaks for all they are worth because the Delta variant is going to go away as fast as it came on. the continual dissemination of exaggerated, misleading, and untrue information about covid infections is staggering. all of it heavily negative and meant to scare people. no other explanation for why the powers that be completely ignore the relevance of natural and herd immunity in all of this. it is sad and sickening, and I don't pay much attention to any of it any longer. I'm not going to comply no matter what these lunatics proclaim, so, most of this is totally irrelevant to me personally. the less I listen to all the BS, the happier I am.
 

Smawgunner2

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because it doesn't fit the narrative. they have to milk these seasonal outbreaks for all they are worth because the Delta variant is going to go away as fast as it came on. the continual dissemination of exaggerated, misleading, and untrue information about covid infections is staggering. all of it heavily negative and meant to scare people. no other explanation for why the powers that be completely ignore the relevance of natural and herd immunity in all of this. it is sad and sickening, and I don't pay much attention to any of it any longer. I'm not going to comply no matter what these lunatics proclaim, so, most of this is totally irrelevant to me personally. the less I listen to all the BS, the happier I am.
Exactly. But the conservative media need to make my point about the contrast between Trump and Biden on how this "crisis" is being handled.
 
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Depending upon your thought processes, here is your daily dose of doom porn, or relevant news!





 
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Ohiosam

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