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2020 Spring Turkey Thread

I’m pumped for opening day. Going to try and take one with my new recurve. Should be a fun challenge.

Listened to the this episode of Meateater where they had a turkey biologist on. He’s also a big hunter. I learned more about why season dates are when they are and several other things I’d never heard of before. Worth the listen and I’d love to hear your feedback. I’ve always been one who thought our season was late but this episode made me question a little why I think that.


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-meateater-podcast/id960902903?i=1000469953687


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Jackalope

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I’m pumped for opening day. Going to try and take one with my new recurve. Should be a fun challenge.

Listened to the this episode of Meateater where they had a turkey biologist on. He’s also a big hunter. I learned more about why season dates are when they are and several other things I’d never heard of before. Worth the listen and I’d love to hear your feedback. I’ve always been one who thought our season was late but this episode made me question a little why I think that.


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-meateater-podcast/id960902903?i=1000469953687


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Got any cliff notes on why it is when it is and not a little late?
 
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Got any cliff notes on why it is when it is and not a little late?

I’ll have to go back and listen to it again because it’s been over a week and the guy gets into some pretty deep studies and analytics. The basics is the south and those states that are having an earlier season than ours could potentially be hurting their long-term numbers. Recent research shows A hens clutch success rate is only 20% and by going in early and not giving them a chance to get bred by the dominant Tom It could have some bad effects in the future. When you kill the dominant Tom the second Tom doesn’t just step up to be top dog. They have to restart the whole process of establishing pecking order. So if you have an earlier season, it is arguably easier to kill that dominant Tom and that might mess up hens getting bred by the guy with the best genetics. This was news to me but hens actually will store different Tom‘s sperm in their bodies and then when the time comes to lay their eggs they will choose the best sperm. If that clutch fails because they had to run away from a predator them they use the next batch. (That may be more info than you wanted!)

If this guy is right, Ohio has its season pretty much right when it needs to. If you get the time skip past their bs session and jump to the 30 minute mark. There’s some excellent info in there. Especially about hunting pressure and how their research shows without a doubt it affects calling.


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I’ll have to go back and listen to it again because it’s been over a week and the guy gets into some pretty deep studies and analytics. The basics is the south and those states that are having an earlier season than ours could potentially be hurting their long-term numbers. Recent research shows A hens clutch success rate is only 20% and by going in early and not giving them a chance to get bred by the dominant Tom It could have some bad effects in the future. When you kill the dominant Tom the second Tom doesn’t just step up to be top dog. They have to restart the whole process of establishing pecking order. So if you have an earlier season, it is arguably easier to kill that dominant Tom and that might mess up hens getting bred by the guy with the best genetics. This was news to me but hens actually will store different Tom‘s sperm in their bodies and then when the time comes to lay their eggs they will choose the best sperm. If that clutch fails because they had to run away from a predator them they use the next batch. (That may be more info than you wanted!)

If this guy is right, Ohio has its season pretty much right when it needs to. If you get the time skip past their bs session and jump to the 30 minute mark. There’s some excellent info in there. Especially about hunting pressure and how their research shows without a doubt it affects calling.


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Interesting but I question it. I’ve had video in the past that I posted here of a Tom breeding a hen on March 15th. I honestly think our season should start on April 15th each year regardless of day of the week. The way they do it now there is a 6 day difference in start dates every few years. So if they are truly going by what is best for the breeding cycle that makes no sense.
 
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I’ll have to go back and listen to it again because it’s been over a week and the guy gets into some pretty deep studies and analytics. The basics is the south and those states that are having an earlier season than ours could potentially be hurting their long-term numbers. Recent research shows A hens clutch success rate is only 20% and by going in early and not giving them a chance to get bred by the dominant Tom It could have some bad effects in the future. When you kill the dominant Tom the second Tom doesn’t just step up to be top dog. They have to restart the whole process of establishing pecking order. So if you have an earlier season, it is arguably easier to kill that dominant Tom and that might mess up hens getting bred by the guy with the best genetics. This was news to me but hens actually will store different Tom‘s sperm in their bodies and then when the time comes to lay their eggs they will choose the best sperm. If that clutch fails because they had to run away from a predator them they use the next batch. (That may be more info than you wanted!)

If this guy is right, Ohio has its season pretty much right when it needs to. If you get the time skip past their bs session and jump to the 30 minute mark. There’s some excellent info in there. Especially about hunting pressure and how their research shows without a doubt it affects calling.


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Thanks. I have always thought that Ohio started season late on purpose to allow the turkeys time to breed first. It's like waiting to start deer season the third week of November.
 

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Heres how our Tennessee trip ended up. Me and my brother both shot birds on the first 2 days and then we were all over them the next few days but could not get them to work a call. 4 Tom's in one group no hens and they gobbled and went the other way damndest thing I've ever seen.. My buddy got on a hot one friday and got him,then Saturday before leaving my brother and the guy we stay with doubled. So 4 of us hunting together got 5 birds in a week. Should of had a few more if they would have played their part.
 

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I’ve been out practicing my calling on different public lands. Fer like the last month in a half or sooo. Prior to this week it seemed the birds were really responsive. I’m not sure what’s going on. I can’t seem to get a bird to answer at me at all.

Going to keep trying tho. Figure come Monday I’ll just hunt my own place at this rate..
 

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😂😂😂😂Guess I shouldn’t poke. I wouldn’t personally do some shit like that. I don’t even hunt public. But have saw statements like I posted through out the years.

Actually yesterday was one of the best shitty days I’ve had for a while. Went and got a License and Turkey tag. Not going to talk about how dirty I felt walking in to a store or how dirty it felt actually.

Anyhow. I got this great big smile on my face. Anticipating shooting a turkey right in its face.
Turkeys have been henned up here for a while. I personally like the latter half of the season vs the beginning. Not going to do any scouting,I usually never do. Birds seem to frequent same areas around here.

Hopefully I can get my kid on a bird this year. Last year had one strutting so close coulda damn near gave us a lap dance. 15 yards or so. He froze up.
Anyhow I’m in no hurry to kill a bird. Thank God tho for Turkey season. Will be a major relief from the day to day here. Good luck guys!

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Heres how our Tennessee trip ended up. Me and my brother both shot birds on the first 2 days and then we were all over them the next few days but could not get them to work a call. 4 Tom's in one group no hens and they gobbled and went the other way damndest thing I've ever seen.. My buddy got on a hot one friday and got him,then Saturday before leaving my brother and the guy we stay with doubled. So 4 of us hunting together got 5 birds in a week. Should of had a few more if they would have played their part.

Congrats on a great trip!
 

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Mason was neck deep in turkeys again this morning. He went out to the blind before daylight. Having seen a bunch of turkeys there, he still wasn’t sure where they were coming from. They gobbled well from the roost today and he was excited to find out the birds are coming to that field from every direction. He said he could have killed a few of them with a blow gun so a bow on Saturday should be no problem. Let’s hope they stick to the routine.