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Jackalope

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My ‘96 Tacoma had 360,000 miles when they bought it back from me and it was still running like a champ. It was one of those that had a recall on the frame rusting but mine wasn’t really too bad, but they wanted it off of the road so I sold it to them…14 years old with 360,000 miles and I got $8500. Too good to pass up.

Thats a pretty damn good haul. the older Yotas were known for running forever. I had a 91 with 240K on the old 22RE 4 banger before I got rid of it with a wiring issue.
 
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This video is a few years old but this guy does a great job going through the powerstroke models and their pros and cons.

 

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I can tell you I owned 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.7. 6.7 hands down for me is the best motor they made. 7.3 would be right there but it just didn't produce the numbers of the 6.7 but man it was reliable. The 6.0 was solid once you studded, deleted, and installed a program to wake it up. I never owned the 6.4 so can't comment on that. The new 6.7 with the HP and the tourqe is great. I didn't have the new 10 speed Trans but averaged 19 mph. The GMC is getting 21mph so i would guess with the new Trans they will be right there
 

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I do agree with that. It's also cheaper to build and order one right now through Ford that go to the ddealership. Bad thing is a 4 month minimum for delivery
 
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And I agree with that. Order it and get exactly what you want. Don't settle. Get exactly what you want with a protection plan and warranty. Know the full history of how it was maintained. Keep it washed up and take care of it so it will take care of you.
 

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I do agree with that. It's also cheaper to build and order one right now through Ford that go to the ddealership. Bad thing is a 4 month minimum for delivery
Ford is pissed of at what the dealers are doing with the whole adding mark up too the MSRP…..
 

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Ford is pissed of at what the dealers are doing with the whole adding mark up too the MSRP…..

No different than what everyone else is doing with things like trailers. I had a trailer guy tell me flat out the overall majority of the cost increase is to make up for loss of volume. If he can only sell half the trailers because of supply issues amd cost increases due to material then he'll mark them up to double his margin. Doing half the volume but mainting the same yearly profits.
 
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"J"

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No different than what everyone else is doing with things like trailers. I had a trailer guy tell me flat out the overall majority of the cost increase is to make up for loss of volume. If he can only sell half the trailers because of supply issues amd cost increases due to material then he'll mark them up to double his margin. Doing half the volume but mainting the same yearly profits.
I’d like too see ford go direct sale. Then let’s see what these stealerships do then….
 
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giles

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I’d like too see ford go direct sale. Then let’s see what these stealerships do then….
 
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There are a ton of ways manufacturer's can manage consumer cost however. All of these dealerships have lengthy purchase agreements with manufacturers. All Ford has to do is make MSRP a maximum amount allowable for final sale. These dealerships don't own the vehicles, they're basically on credit from ford until they sell them. Credit which they pay interest on. Ford could absolutely require a max price or percentage markup over cost on vehicles.
 
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giles

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There are a ton of ways manufacturer's routers can manage consumer cost however. All of these dealerships have lengthy purchase agreements with manufacturers. All Ford has to do is make MSRP a maximum amount allowable for final sale. These dealerships don't own the vehicles, they're basically on credit from ford until they sell them. Credit which they pay interest on. Ford could absolutely require a max price or percentage markup over cost on vehicles.
I think Tesla is proving that.
 
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The huge showrooms...is that what gave it away? State of the art everything.

They don't hardly make anything on vehicle price anymore. With the invent of the internet consumers are more informed on prices. The finance department makes the lions share of profits, then the shop, then used and lastly new vehicles. They get kickbacks on finance rates and pretty much all of the money from extended warranties and other junk goes straight in their pocket. Walk in a dealership and mention cash or outside financing and it'll hurt more than help these days. They won't budge much on price because they know they wont make it back in finance.
 
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They don't hardly make anything on vehicle price anymore. With the invent of the internet consumers are more informed on prices. The finance department makes the lions share of profits, then the shop, then used and lastly new vehicles. They get kickbacks on finance rates and pretty much all of the money from extended warranties and other junk goes straight in their pocket. Walk in a dealership and mention cash or outside financing and it'll hurt more than help these days. They won't budge much on price because they know they wont make it back in finance.
Warranties is their bread and butter. Especially the aftermarket ones. If you’re paying more than $500 for one, turn it down…