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"J"

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I think the rise in urgent cares has helped tremendously in this. Obamacare really hurt the family dr practice and many of the old timers retired. I remember calling mine for a sick visit and their first available was 3 weeks out, now I just go to urgent care and I'm in and out. The last two times with the boys I just did teladoc online through our insurance providers recommended service. Never left the house and was done in 15 minutes and only had to wait 10. Prescriptions sent in and we were done.
I’ve used the Dr on demand as tricare recommended it. No copay so far for using it. I’ve used it twice and the wife used it once. Will continue too use it for the routine stuff…
 
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Several CVS stores up here have walk in clinics and is about the only way to go up here when you need something for a sinus infection or similar. Make an appointment, get in and get out with your meds. Did that several times in years past prepping for a vacation and suddenly feel it coming on.
 

Geezer II

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U.S. health regulators cleared use of a Covid-19 pill from Pfizer Inc., the first drug that newly infected patients can now take at home to stay out of the hospital.

The authorization by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday permits doctors to prescribe the medicine to high-risk patients age 12 and older early in the course of disease, shortly after they develop symptoms.

The FDA said the drug, named Paxlovid, worked safely and would be an important tool in reducing hospital admissions and death.

The pill arrives as the Omicron variant spreads across the U.S. Researchers expect antivirals like Paxlovid would be effective against the new strain because of the way they work, but are waiting for studies to confirm their suspicion.
 

"J"

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U.S. health regulators cleared use of a Covid-19 pill from Pfizer Inc., the first drug that newly infected patients can now take at home to stay out of the hospital.

The authorization by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday permits doctors to prescribe the medicine to high-risk patients age 12 and older early in the course of disease, shortly after they develop symptoms.

The FDA said the drug, named Paxlovid, worked safely and would be an important tool in reducing hospital admissions and death.

The pill arrives as the Omicron variant spreads across the U.S. Researchers expect antivirals like Paxlovid would be effective against the new strain because of the way they work, but are waiting for studies to confirm their suspicion.
Wonder what quantity of ivermectin is in it?
 
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One of my friends who is a retired pharmacist contracted Covid a couple months back. He worked up the right dosage of veterinary grade Ivermectin, administered it to himself and climbed to be symptom free within two hours. He is very well read on this entire Covid thing, is anti-vaccine as anyone I know. I have no idea why he chose veterinary grade Ivermectin, but he is a bright man and figured out what he needed, and was apparently correct.
 

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One of my friends who is a retired pharmacist contracted Covid a couple months back. He worked up the right dosage of veterinary grade Ivermectin, administered it to himself and climbed to be symptom free within two hours. He is very well read on this entire Covid thing, is anti-vaccine as anyone I know. I have no idea why he chose veterinary grade Ivermectin, but he is a bright man and figured out what he needed, and was apparently correct.
Both my board members that got it, got the Ivermectin infusion and both said you could feel it working within 2 hours. Why it's being demonized is beyond me and it certainly makes you question the conspiracy involving population control.
 

"J"

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One of my friends who is a retired pharmacist contracted Covid a couple months back. He worked up the right dosage of veterinary grade Ivermectin, administered it to himself and climbed to be symptom free within two hours. He is very well read on this entire Covid thing, is anti-vaccine as anyone I know. I have no idea why he chose veterinary grade Ivermectin, but he is a bright man and figured out what he needed, and was apparently correct.
It’s more readily available for the general public.
 

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If you look online you'll see a ton of information about how Pfizer's new pill is not even remotely the same as Ivermectin. Different molecular makeup, different pathways to enter the system, they interact different with the body etc. Plenty of doctors have assisted in news articles to dispel the myth that they're similar. What they often fail to admit is they do the same thing. They both act as a protease inhibitor. When questioned on this fact their only response is that ivermectin needs more research against covid. So let me understand. You trust and support a protease inhibitor that is newly invented with minimal research and zero longterm data, but you don't trust a protease inhibitor that has been around for generations and has been proven safe. Fucking quacks.
 

"J"

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If you look online you'll see a ton of information about how Pfizer's new pill is not even remotely the same as Ivermectin. Different molecular makeup, different pathways to enter the system, they interact different with the body etc. Plenty of doctors have assisted in news articles to dispel the myth that they're similar. What they often fail to admit is they do the same thing. They both act as a protease inhibitor. When questioned on this fact their only response is that ivermectin needs more research against covid. So let me understand. You trust and support a protease inhibitor that is newly invented with minimal research and zero longterm data, but you don't trust a protease inhibitor that has been around for generations and has been proven safe. Fucking quacks.
Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 

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If you look online you'll see a ton of information about how Pfizer's new pill is not even remotely the same as Ivermectin. Different molecular makeup, different pathways to enter the system, they interact different with the body etc. Plenty of doctors have assisted in news articles to dispel the myth that they're similar. What they often fail to admit is they do the same thing. They both act as a protease inhibitor. When questioned on this fact their only response is that ivermectin needs more research against covid. So let me understand. You trust and support a protease inhibitor that is newly invented with minimal research and zero longterm data, but you don't trust a protease inhibitor that has been around for generations and has been proven safe. Fucking quacks.
Fucking liars.
 

jimk

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I have been watching this thread for months now. My 2 cents.

Political or not some have issues with vaccine but think about this, when the polio vaccine came out, people rolled up their sleeves and got the shot. There was no social media they just got the shot and we are much better off in that area. Same with our kids with measles and mumps.

As for this virus, I think the bigger issue is how it is impacting our health care options. Nurses and doctors are saying they are over run with cases.

My opinion, your choice not to get the vaccine, but don't fault the health care system if you get pushed to less than optimal care. The evidence so far has shown that a shot produces less symptoms. Yes - if you are younger than 50 more than likely you will survive like overcoming the Flu. But if you end up in ICU and I have some illness unrelated to covid, i expect to get the ICU bed before you. You had your chance to avoid this but chose not to. Your right not to get the shot, but now you are affected my right to health care by taking that bed/doctor/nurse to aid in your care.

Social media like this very forum causes people to form opinions and beliefs that are counter productive to the common good of man kind.

I am so glad we live in the USA. We have the ability to debate this and the right to our own thoughts. I would rather live here than other country that tracks their citizens.

Thank you to the veterans that are reading this. You are my heroes even if you disagree with me. I love this country and the freedoms it gives to me. But I think we need to look at history to see how we approached previous illness and the way forward. More than likely this virus will become like the flu and less threatening as it mutates. But until that happens it will become a hot topic like getting the Flu shot. Some get the Flu shot others don't.
 
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Redhunter1012

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I have been watching this thread for months now. My 2 cents.

Political or not some have issues with vaccine but think about this, when the polio vaccine came out, people rolled up their sleeves and got the shot. There was no social media they just got the shot and we are much better off
You do realize that polio killed like 1 in 3 people and maimed others. Covid kills .03 percent and of those, about 90% of those are elderly people with underlying conditions. Apples and oranges
 

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I have been watching this thread for months now. My 2 cents.

Political or not some have issues with vaccine but think about this, when the polio vaccine came out, people rolled up their sleeves and got the shot. There was no social media they just got the shot and we are much better off in that area. Same with our kids with measles and mumps.

As for this virus, I think the bigger issue is how it is impacting our health care options. Nurses and doctors are saying they are over run with cases.

My opinion, your choice not to get the vaccine, but don't fault the health care system if you get pushed to less than optimal care. The evidence so far has shown that a shot produces less symptoms. Yes - if you are younger than 50 more than likely you will survive like overcoming the Flu. But if you end up in ICU and I have some illness unrelated to covid, i expect to get the ICU bed before you. You had your chance to avoid this but chose not to. Your right not to get the shot, but now you are affected my right to health care by taking that bed/doctor/nurse to aid in your care.

Social media like this very forum causes people to form opinions and beliefs that are counter productive to the common good of man kind.

I am so glad we live in the USA. We have the ability to debate this and the right to our own thoughts. I would rather live here than other country that tracks their citizens.

Thank you to the veterans that are reading this. You are my heroes even if you disagree with me. I love this country and the freedoms it gives to me. But I think we need to look at history to see how we approached previous illness and the way forward. More than likely this virus will become like the flu and less threatening as it mutates. But until that happens it will become a hot topic like getting the Flu shot. Some get the Flu shot others don't.
Amen
 

jimk

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You do realize that polio killed like 1 in 3 people and maimed others. Covid kills .03 percent and of those, about 90% of those are elderly people with underlying conditions. Apples and oranges
Yes - but people got the polio vaccine without researching the internet to find case studies like you stated. That's all I was trying to say in that statement. Not trying to debate which illness killed more people but how times have change where and how people get their information.
 

"J"

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Yes - but people got the polio vaccine without researching the internet to find case studies like you stated. That's all I was trying to say in that statement. Not trying to debate which illness killed more people but how times have change where and how people get their information.
Polio wasn’t politicized like Covid is today. Two different eras, and we didn’t think our government would mislead like they’re prone too do these days.
 

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I have been watching this thread for months now. My 2 cents.

Political or not some have issues with vaccine but think about this, when the polio vaccine came out, people rolled up their sleeves and got the shot. There was no social media they just got the shot and we are much better off in that area. Same with our kids with measles and mumps.

As for this virus, I think the bigger issue is how it is impacting our health care options. Nurses and doctors are saying they are over run with cases.

My opinion, your choice not to get the vaccine, but don't fault the health care system if you get pushed to less than optimal care. The evidence so far has shown that a shot produces less symptoms. Yes - if you are younger than 50 more than likely you will survive like overcoming the Flu. But if you end up in ICU and I have some illness unrelated to covid, i expect to get the ICU bed before you. You had your chance to avoid this but chose not to. Your right not to get the shot, but now you are affected my right to health care by taking that bed/doctor/nurse to aid in your care.

Social media like this very forum causes people to form opinions and beliefs that are counter productive to the common good of man kind.

I am so glad we live in the USA. We have the ability to debate this and the right to our own thoughts. I would rather live here than other country that tracks their citizens.

Thank you to the veterans that are reading this. You are my heroes even if you disagree with me. I love this country and the freedoms it gives to me. But I think we need to look at history to see how we approached previous illness and the way forward. More than likely this virus will become like the flu and less threatening as it mutates. But until that happens it will become a hot topic like getting the Flu shot. Some get the Flu shot others don't.

Are you willing to sign a form refusing care for any risky behavior for which you made a personal decision to participate? Ride a bicycle without a helmet, not wear a lifejacket, any sports participation, drive when unnecessary, eat too many cheeseburgers, are you currently at the recommended weight, should we reduce care if you develop a condition due to being over optimal weight Etc. You ever drink any alcohol? People have a right to make personal health decisions based on their personal belief, and no doctor, and especially not you, have a right to judge them for that to impact their care. Regardless of your personal health decision, or anyone else's, you have no more right to care than any other person. Should we apply your same logic to those who can afford better care, let's just take all the doctors from the poor hospitals and staff ours. After all, those poor people had plenty of opportunity to make themselves better. How about this idea, let's reserve all the care capacity for those under 60 and say screw all those old people who will likely die to covid or something else anyway in the next decade. Cancer patients, let's free up the beds and nurses. This isn't Nazi Germany my friend. You're pointing the finger at the wrong people. Our healthcare system has had over a year to prepare for covid variants and spikes yet they are woefully unprepared. Instead of realizing and being angry about that you just insist that people be left in the street to die.
 
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