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Geezer II

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The fucking vaccine didn't even come out while he was in charge... Spin it some more folks! It was a push to have a vaccine.
Trump and his wife were vaccinated before leaving the white house in Jan - check it out - dang - don't make no difference in your personal choice - just a point of fact I added to the narritave - is that ok - whose spin n ?
 

Geezer II

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Just like the vaccine companies waiting til after the election to announce the vaccines were ready, he kept his vaccination quiet because it all was being used as a political tool and he wanted no part of it IMO.
Trumps operation "Warp Speed" was successful in the development of the vaccines but the distribution system wasn't - not a opinion
 
Trumps operation "Warp Speed" was successful in the development of the vaccines but the distribution system wasn't - not a opinion
Hmm, with all the other outbreaks and vaccinations we have had in the last 20 years you woulda thought he would have had it running perfectly smooth <sarcasm> I would imagine a lot of that revolved around the vaccination companies being hush hush and not releasing it before the election or perhaps giving dates when it would be ready for distribution - not all an opinion
 

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Trumps operation "Warp Speed" was successful in the development of the vaccines but the distribution system wasn't - not a opinion

On December 14th the day it was first available to the public a total of 55 sites in 50 states nationwide had received vaccine shipments by around noon on Monday, said Gen. Gustave Perna, chief operation officer for Operation Warp Speed, the U.S. government’s coronavirus-response program. He said at a news conference that plans remain on track for a total of 636 locations to receive vaccines by Wednesday and an additional 581 between Thursday and Sunday, completing distribution of the initial 2.9 million doses.

So they distributed the first 2.9 million doses to 581 sites in 50 states in just three days. Rollout was going just fine, and would have continued to do so, a new inauguration traditionally throws a wrench in a lot of things and current presidents love to blame the last guy.
 

Geezer II

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On December 14th the day it was first available to the public a total of 55 sites in 50 states nationwide had received vaccine shipments by around noon on Monday, said Gen. Gustave Perna, chief operation officer for Operation Warp Speed, the U.S. government’s coronavirus-response program. He said at a news conference that plans remain on track for a total of 636 locations to receive vaccines by Wednesday and an additional 581 between Thursday and Sunday, completing distribution of the initial 2.9 million doses.

Rollout was going just fine and would have continued to do so. A new inoguration traditionally throws a wrench in a lot of things and current residents live to blame the last guy.
No blame here just fact - it is what it is
 

Geezer II

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2.9 million doses were distributed to 581 sites in 50 states in the first three days.

50 days later on February 8th 60 million doses had been distributed and around 42 million had been administered.


- no opinion, actual real data.
Dr. Slaoui had some interesting observations on this when he was managing the roll out
 

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Jackalope

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Pfizer is stating 91% efficacy at the 6 month mark. Note though that the method for determine this appear to be identification of symptomatic infection and not immune response antibody counts. Meaning it's not absolute and there is room for missed diagnosis to sway the numbers. Either way it's better than nothing for the at risk population. .

"From the 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 in the trial, 850 cases of COVID-19 were in the placebo group and 77 cases were in the BNT162b2 group, corresponding to vaccine efficacy of 91.3%," it said."

 
I have a neutral suggestion. Prior to making a decision on whether to receive or pass on the shot(s), you might want to Google and then read the EUA for each company's shot(s). They are roughly 6 pages of what I would consider as vital information! You may want to print out and review as well as share with folks close to you.

Another study you might consider is the difference between EUA and actual FDA approval.