what government agency that has anything to do with combating CWD gives a damn what the Boone and Crockett Club has to say about the matter? I'm glad they have taken a hardline position, but so what? I don't see any real progress being made with this problem until big game farming is regulated and policed by wildlife agencies instead of the Dept. of Agriculture.
CWD OH – Effective August 1, 2018 New Deer Restrictions
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BlueSpruceOutfitters
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I'll put this out there. I've been doing extensive research on this topic for a few months now and the more and more I study the disease, it's impact on wild herds and the political power it has, the more and more I have less concern about it. It's really changed my view on it. While just like any other neurological disease, I do believe it's something we need to learn more about and possibly find better prevention measures. I do not for one minute believe it's the future destruction of the deer herd and also DO believe it's being used as a tool against the unity of all deer hunters large and small. I also truly am starting to realized that it is becoming a part of another way for government control of OUR wildlife and outdoor way of life. I'll continue to do my due diligence and make my decisions based on fact and science, not on knee jerk reactions from State agency's with political motivations.
I have to say that is one conspiracy that I just cannot get on board with. what evidence have you uncovered that would suggest such a thing? prion related illness/death is very real. no wild or captive cervid, or person for that matter, survives spongiform encephalopathy. the cause is not detectable until the living subject shows physical symptoms, which can take years, even decades to show up. no treatment or cure. I've done a little research on this myself. human beings have made CWD a problem and a threat to wild populations by transporting infected livestock great distances for deer farming. it has to stop.
cspot
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I don't believe in the government consipiracy, but from my research I don't think the sky is falling. Far more deer die from EHD in a year than CWD. CWD has never had a significant impact on deer populations even where it has been for 50 years.
Government using it as a tool to divide hunters?... Using it as another way to control OUR wildlife?...
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
BlueSpruceOutfitters
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Just my opinion. I don't think that it's this mass hysteria they're portraying it to be. If they first detected in Colorado, in 1967, and they are saying that it can cause a 10% drop in population, per year, why are all the deer numbers stable in high occurrence areas? Or why did South Dakota move CWD positive elk to a new area because they were over populating their current habitat. The huge difference in state reaction is what's unsettling. States out west have learned that it's just another natural disease that will kill a deer and have kept monitoring. While states like Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan have overreacted to the point of wiping out entire herds in parts of the state to "prevent" this disease due to an animal showing up with CWD, only to find the other hundreds or more deer they slaughtered were not infected. Im not a pro deer farm guy, but do believe everyone is entitled to their right to business. States like Iowa have come in, found a CWD infected deer, killed every deer in the farm/ preserve and then put a 5 year quarantine on that land. All for a disease, that's been around for probably hundreds of years (we just recognized it in 1967) that has not been proven to be transmissible to humans. I'm not a conspiracy theorist guys, but the facts alone are fishy. Just my shithouse opinion.
recommend reading "Deadly Feasts" by Richard Rhodes. very good read about prions and public health. just because it has not been documented that CWD is transmissible to humans from cervids does not mean that cannot or has not already happened. very well written and disturbing book. I'm very much a skeptic and cynical when it comes to most things, but this information really got my attention.
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The fact that a malformed protein capable of infecting plant life and being transmitted via consumption of said plant to a live animal where it causes certain death by manipulating the animals protein structure, should be concern enough. Simply because it has not mutated to a point where crossover from our food to us is possible, should not give us any level of comfort. This is not a germ, or virus, or anything that can be eradicated by use of disinfectants, vaccinations, or a time-based lack of a suitable host. This is a prion capable of mutating the basic building blocks of life present in all living species. If it does mutate to impact humans it will make cancer look like a runny nose.
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Government testing gone wrong? Like some comic book stuff, I could get on board with. But that about as far as I could go. But one would think if they knew how they made it, they could figure out how to fix it. That just doesn’t seem to be the case here. To many unknowns. No one spilled a test tube here...