Deer Management Stakeholder Organization.

[CritterGitterToo]

When I think about the tradition of hunting, I don't see myself as part of it. I think about farmers hunting their land, taking their boys out and showing them the ropes. You know, passing on the heritage to the next generation.

I didn't have any family members that hunted, farmed or had land. I am mostly self taught and learned the ropes through experience. Sure, I made some mistakes along the way but I saw deer if conditions were right. We had a good population back then.

I think those cheaper $15 anterless tags especially made available for gun week 1 or 2 years in a row really had a huge impact on the population on public land. If I was trying to self learn today on public land I'd probably lose interest and eventually pursue other endeavors. NOT because I expect or want it to be easy. To put it simply, the pursuit of game is far more interesting when there is game to pursue.

I always thought farmers were pro hunter, and I suppose many still are. Though, it's seems more and more these days they're turning the tradition of hunting into an opportunity to line their pockets.

Brent, I do hope you'll share my feedback with the group.

 

[hickslawns]

I bite my tongue.

 

[bowhunter1023]

Absolutely. The future generations of hunters, the ones to carry on the "traditions" don't want to sit in a blind staring at leaves listening to stories about how we used to actually see deer.

We need a list of organizations within that group broken down by

1. Who wants to see more deer.
2. Who wants to see less deer.
3. Who thinks the numbers are okay now.

Until that is established and made known it is nothing more than a pud yanking circle-jerk of little value to sportsmen.

I'm just some guy on the Internet and I approve of this message...

 

[bawana]

As a deer hunter what is your greatest concern involving the future of deer hunting in Ohio?

 

[giles]

As a deer hunter what is your greatest concern involving the future of deer hunting in Ohio?

If that isn't clear, you aren't listening at all.

 

[Jackalope]

As a deer hunter what is your greatest concern involving the future of deer hunting in Ohio?

That a group will be created who claims to represent us that ignores our questions or flat refuses to answer them. Yet asks their own questions without ever staring the intended reason for asking them or how the responses will be used.

 

[Boarhead]

This is starting to become a joke.

 

[Dustinb80]

I would agree with Brian

 

[hickslawns]

As a deer hunter what is your greatest concern involving the future of deer hunting in Ohio?

Continued decline in deer population. My son is already getting turned off by not seeing deer. It is difficult to recruit the youth and future generations without game to pursue.

Another concern is regarding the lack of available land. Same thing. No place to hunt, no future hunters.

I should have ignored this and not wasted my time posting. I feel like this is a total waste of my input. Not saying Bawana is a waste. I appreciate his efforts. I'm just saying, my toaster could offer as much assistance to me regarding these issues as the people "concerned" and "working in it."

 

["J"]

As a deer hunter what is your greatest concern involving the future of deer hunting in Ohio?

You've been on this post since 2/9 and you're asking this question after 279 posts? Seriously?

I'm actually dumbfounded and a loss for words that would not probably get my ass kicked.... WTF......

 

[Bigslam51]

You've been on this post since 2/9 and you're asking this question after 279 posts? Seriously?

I'm actually dumbfounded and a loss for words that would not probably get my ass kicked.... WTF......

X2. All I could do is laugh

 

[OO2]

That a group will be created who claims to represent us that ignores our questions or flat refuses to answer them. Yet asks their own questions without ever staring the intended reason for asking them or how the responses will be used.

This.

 

[BCamp]

That when competing with all the technology, video games and short attention spans the kids won't be interested in hunting and not seeing deer. I am still relatively new to hunting and as much as I'd love to kill a big buck, I think the "quality over quantity" less deer means bigger deer is the wrong way to manage the state population. Seeing deer whether monster bucks, spike bucks, does or fawns will keep kids interested. Sitting in the woods and not seeing deer will drive them back to the couch in a hurry.

 

[bawana]

That a group will be created who claims to represent us that ignores our questions or flat refuses to answer them. Yet asks their own questions without ever staring the intended reason for asking them or how the responses will be used.

I haven't refused to answer your question. As I said I don't know the position each person on the group has taken. The only ones I feel comfortable in speaking about, Whitetails Unlimited feels the population is too low. The official stance of the Ohio Farm Bureau is that we need a further reduction.

As for my last question, just read back through the last 285 posts, many are worried about land access, many about the population, and a few have different agendas that worry them.

 

[bawana]

Continued decline in deer population. My son is already getting turned off by not seeing deer. It is difficult to recruit the youth and future generations without game to pursue.

Another concern is regarding the lack of available land. Same thing. No place to hunt, no future hunters.

There you have it!

 

[hickslawns]

Continued decline in deer population. My son is already getting turned off by not seeing deer. It is difficult to recruit the youth and future generations without game to pursue.

Another concern is regarding the lack of available land. Same thing. No place to hunt, no future hunters.

There you have it!

Thanks. I don't see the point in shooting the middle man/messenger. I believe we as the hunters are only receiving lip service (Not you Bawana, just in general). However, if this is a platform we have available, I'll answer the questions.

 

["J"]

If the killing of a deer is the only thing a successful deer season is based on, then you're in it for the wrong reason....

 

[Fletch]

If the killing of a deer is the only thing a successful deer season is based on, then you're in it for the wrong reason....

"J" You just hit the nail on the head.... Man if killing a deer was what a successful season was all about I would have quit long time ago...

 

[reo]

My main, number one, top concern is the decline of the deer population. A close second is the insanity that is managing public land with the same regulations and bag limits as private land.

 

[Jackalope]

I haven't refused to answer your question. As I said I don't know the position each person on the group has taken. The only ones I feel comfortable in speaking about, Whitetails Unlimited feels the population is too low. The official stance of the Ohio Farm Bureau is that we need a further reduction.

As for my last question, just read back through the last 285 posts, many are worried about land access, many about the population, and a few have different agendas that worry them.

So when you said A specific group wants to see a drastically reduced population, i then asked you specifically who that group was, and your response was read the list of participants I'm sure you can figure it out, wasn't refusing to answer my question?

And I personally never said there were no other concerns such as land access. My personal opinion on that is I don't see it as a threat to deer hunting at all. If I think back to all the properties that I have Hunted and include all of the knowledge about neighboring and surrounding Farms, I can only think of two out of hundreds that did not have someone hunting it. Granted some of them were only hunted by the farmer's grandson, or it was hunted by family during gun week, but I would say 95% of the properties that I have knowledge of, have someone hunting them. So the problem is not necessarily that there are vast expanses of land that nobody can hunt, the problem i think people have is they personally can't get permission. Those are two totally different problems. One is with landowners not allowing any hunting at all, which most of the time does not seem to be the case. And the other is with landowners being very selective and only allowing people they know personally to hunt, which you are never going to fix. The reality is the hunters of this state would have never been able to drastically reduce the population if they as a collective were severely limited on land access. There will always be a subset of hunters who find it difficult to find a place to hunt.

And at the end of the day access to property doesn't matter a hill of beans if the deer population is absolute crap. I can get access to the most exclusive strip club in the world, but it don't mean crap if I get there and they only have two fat chicks.