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Curran

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Holy cow Joe. I was gonna check in and see how things finished up yesterday. I never imagined you were dealing with such a serious situation. Thank God the little things were all in your favor yesterday. Truly thankful that you're OK and able to write that story today.
 

CJD3

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My God Joe! So many little things that added up to your surviving that!

We all read about these situations over the years happening to strangers but reading yours, and knowing you really drives it all home. Thank you for the write-up. In doing so, you may be saving someone's life down the road by pointing out how seemingly isolated things can add up to survival or a heart breaking report of a sportsman loosing their life while pursuing a recreation they enjoy.
 

bowhunter1023

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I wondered why you didn't text me back too!

You also learned another valuable waterfowl lesson. You want to make birds fly? Start fuggin' around in the dekes!
 

CJD3

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Also... I would want the gun as a reminder... I vote to recover it or have it recovered.
 

COB-TY

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Holy crap Joe! All I can say is I'm glad it was you and not me. I'd be at the bottom of the lake with the gun. I don't do water well. Glad you made it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Glad your ok Joe that could have gone very bad as you know. Thank God some very small details went in your favor. I typically duck hunt the puget sound delta alone with a 15 foot sea kayak. Even if i was able to to a mud bank there would be no way id make it to a mud bank there is no way id make it to safety after being in the water. Hopefully my drysuit will keep me warm enough and the spray skirt would keep enough water out of the yak for me to flip it over in the water then paddle back.

I almost lost a buddy this weekend who was mountaineering on mt rainier. He fell through a covered ice cravas that was about 40 feet deep. Luckily his back wedged him at the surface for his mountaineering partner to pull him out. Other than a badly dislocated shoulder he is ok. Just goes to show how careful you have to be in the winter.
 
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Jackalope

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Thanks everyone for the kind words and warm wishes. Crazy to sit here and think how easily this could have gone the other way and I would be sitting on a morgue slab instead of on the couch. Life is precious, if it can go wrong it will, have a plan and another plan if that one fails. The difference between life and death could be something as simple as bringing an extra paddle you don't even need. Take blankets and keep them in the truck if you or your buddy falls in. Keep a hide a key under your truck and make sure your buddy knows where it is if you go in with your keys. but most importantly, fight, fight like hell and get mad, refuse to let it happen this way, keep a level head even when you know you're screwed and you're not going to make it.

One question though... What were you planning for the 550 paracord???

The cord was wrapped around a 6 inch length of 2x4. I was about 50 yards from the shore when Jim got to me; but the plan was Travis could throw me the line to help pull me in once i got closer. There was a quarter to a half inch of ice around the bank for about 15 feet out but with it being an old gravel pit the water gets deep quick. The plan was Travis could pull me in while i broke ice.

Man Joe, glad you got out bud. I often think about falling into the bay with waders on if the boat were ever to tip. My game plan was always to just strip the waders and swim to the bank. Like you said though, at that point, there is no getting warm...

Thanks man. Stripping your waders will be next to impossible if you can't get back on the boat where you don't have to swim. Within a minute you lose most motor skills with your fingers, within two minutes your hands are completely useless; combine that with needing to tread water makes it virtually impossible. I tried momentarily to get my boots off but couldn't. If you got your waders down around your legs and couldn't get them the rest of the way off you're gone as you can't kick your legs anymore. Going underwater for the moment it might take to use your crippled hands isn't an option as you don't really have the strength to get back up. Test out what I mean. Take a bowl of ice water and let the water sit. Plunge your hands in it and keep them there for two minutes. I think you'll be shocked how quickly you loose use of them. Now magnify that because in this experiment your warm body is still pumping warmer blood to them.

Dam joe... Been wet but not like that... After I fell in in purchased a big ass knife I wear on my wader straps in case I have to cut them off me or at least my boots. Being that cold sucks bud. Get you a big ass magnet on a rope and go trolling. It will pick it up
It's surely not going to hurt to have a knife. Wish i would have had one to cut that whistle lanyard free from my life jacket. The best is to have someone else with you every time and always have a rescue plan. Like I told SS though, in water that cold you won't have the motor skills to cut off those waders. Maybe the straps but cutting them all the way down would be impossible if you have to keep treading water.

Glad your ok Joe that could have gone very bad as you know. Thank God some very small details went in your favor. I typically duck hunt the puget sound delta alone with a 15 foot sea kayak. Even if i was able to to a mud bank there would be no way id make it to a mud bank there is no way id make it to safety after being in the water. Hopefully my drysuit will keep me warm enough and the spray skirt would keep enough water out of the yak for me to flip it over in the water then paddle back.
Thanks bud, I appreciate it. This whole thing taught me every detail matters, and every tool no matter how small or seemingly insignificant can mean the difference between life and death. You won't catch me in cold water again in a kayak. If I can't say 100% that I can get back in or on it I'm not going to be in it.
 

Mike

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Just logging in today. Damn, Joe! God is good. I'm glad you survived this ordeal!
 

Milo

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Thanks everyone for the kind words and warm wishes. Crazy to sit here and think how easily this could have gone the other way and I would be sitting on a morgue slab instead of on the couch. Life is precious, if it can go wrong it will, have a plan and another plan if that one fails. The difference between life and death could be something as simple as bringing an extra paddle you don't even need. Take blankets and keep them in the truck if you or your buddy falls in. Keep a hide a key under your truck and make sure your buddy knows where it is if you go in with your keys. but most importantly, fight, fight like hell and get mad, refuse to let it happen this way, keep a level head even when you know you're screwed and you're not going to make it.



The cord was wrapped around a 6 inch length of 2x4. I was about 50 yards from the shore when Jim got to me; but the plan was Travis could throw me the line to help pull me in once i got closer. There was a quarter to a half inch of ice around the bank for about 15 feet out but with it being an old gravel pit the water gets deep quick. The plan was Travis could pull me in while i broke ice.



Thanks man. Stripping your waders will be next to impossible if you can't get back on the boat where you don't have to swim. Within a minute you lose most motor skills with your fingers, within two minutes your hands are completely useless; combine that with needing to tread water makes it virtually impossible. I tried momentarily to get my boots off but couldn't. If you got your waders down around your legs and couldn't get them the rest of the way off you're gone as you can't kick your legs anymore. Going underwater for the moment it might take to use your crippled hands isn't an option as you don't really have the strength to get back up. Test out what I mean. Take a bowl of ice water and let the water sit. Plunge your hands in it and keep them there for two minutes. I think you'll be shocked how quickly you loose use of them. Now magnify that because in this experiment your warm body is still pumping warmer blood to them.

It's surely not going to hurt to have a knife. Wish i would have had one to cut that whistle lanyard free from my life jacket. The best is to have someone else with you every time and always have a rescue plan. Like I told SS though, in water that cold you won't have the motor skills to cut off those waders. Maybe the straps but cutting them all the way down would be impossible if you have to keep treading water.

Thanks bud, I appreciate it. This whole thing taught me every detail matters, and every tool no matter how small or seemingly insignificant can mean the difference between life and death. You won't catch me in cold water again in a kayak. If I can't say 100% that I can get back in or on it I'm not going to be in it.
That's what the knife is for.. Slice across my chest and poke holes in my waders to keep them from balloting and filling with wader.. That happened to me one and if the water can get out it won't be so bad. It's scary when you feet turn to cement..
 

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Thanks man. Stripping your waders will be next to impossible if you can't get back on the boat where you don't have to swim. Within a minute you lose most motor skills with your fingers, within two minutes your hands are completely useless; combine that with needing to tread water makes it virtually impossible. I tried momentarily to get my boots off but couldn't. If you got your waders down around your legs and couldn't get them the rest of the way off you're gone as you can't kick your legs anymore. Going underwater for the moment it might take to use your crippled hands isn't an option as you don't really have the strength to get back up. Test out what I mean. Take a bowl of ice water and let the water sit. Plunge your hands in it and keep them there for two minutes. I think you'll be shocked how quickly you loose use of them. Now magnify that because in this experiment your warm body is still pumping warmer blood to them.
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My buddy and I talked about jumping in the lake where we swim in the summer with our waders on to see if we could swim or be able to get them off. Obviously it would be completely different doing it when it was warm, but maybe get an idea of how hard it would be.
 

brock ratcliff

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Dang Joe. Glad it worked out with the best possible outcome!

For anyone thinking you can get out of a pair of waders or most any clothing when you are submerged, you are WRONG. Just try slipping out of a pair of tennis shoes the next time you are wading a creek, it isn't easy. Boots aint happening, and swimming in shoes is nearly impossible, with those big boots on...I don't know how you did it. You are very fortunate.

A good rule of thumb when dealing with water and cool temps; if the water temp and air temp do not add up to 100, you are in danger of hypothermia within minutes if you get wet.
 

Joel

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Scary stuff, man- glad you are ok. I fell out of a kayak once when it was warm enough out to swim and about had a panic attack. I had my heavy work boots on and they just filled with water and turned into lead weights. I can't even imagine dressed in all that gear and being in water that cold. God is good.
 

"J"

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Wow, I'm speechless.... Just glad you're still with us and able too add some experience as too what happened and what worked too get you back too shore.... That was a very tough read and too realize you came that close too death and made it safely too shore along with help form Jim and Travis it also speaks volumes on you being able too stay level headed too keep your wits about you and know and relay what too do....

Again Joe I'm glad you're home safe and sound.... Give that beautiful young lady and extra long hug tonight!!!
 

rsmith

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Wow, that is crazy, someone was looking out for you and we are all glad you are still here with us, I think this will remind us all how things change in a matter of seconds.