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Jackalope said:
I call foul on the bold section because its arbitrary. Sweden didn't shut down their economy, wear masks or place hardly any restrictions on anything yet they've moved past the spike they experienced.

Mask wearing allows us to open the economy up faster.

Says who? Why did we shut it down unilaterally across the US the first time? Areas that had low numbers and no spike we're shutdown for a month. Only to open and have it spike. We didn't prevent anything, we only delayed it. Shutting down an economy is not a solution. It's a delay tactic that should be spent massively increasing medical capacity.

Not wearing a mask around others only worsens the pandemic.leads to more disease, and worsens the economic effects.

Define worsens? Does that mean more people sick in a shorter period, or the same number of people sick over a longer period. None of us are immune. Logic dictates that eventually 70-90% of us will get it. Let's not forget that 60+% of people never show symptoms, another 30-35% just have the flu. The number of people needing medical intervention is very small in comparison to the number of people who don't. So is this really a pandemic problem, or a problem of our private medical facilities to deal with even a small number of sick people. I haven't seen field hospitals and hotels comendeered to service the sick yet. The probelm isnt the pandemic. The problem is healthcare capacity of for profit institutuons.

Leads to more disease? If I have a bucket with 1 gallon of water and I dump it out quickly, or a bucket with 1 gallon of water that i slowly let trickle out for an hour. At the end of that hour I still lost a gallon of water. Where did the more come from? If 300 million get sick over the next year, or 300 million sick over the next 5 years, the end result is 300 million got sick. The person who has medical conditions today will be no safer from dying from covid now than they will be next summer. Masks are only a small small part of it. They're a delay tactic where the end result will be the same. The focus should be on increasing medical capacity, finding treatment options, either building or refitting medical facilities to handle a surge. The quickest way to end this is to get as many people through it as quickly and safely as possiable. The quickest way to reopen and keep the economy going is to get this shit over with not delay and hide from it. Massively increase the capacity of medical care facilities to prepare for a huge spike and lets move forward.

The quicker we can do this and get people through it the better we can protect our vulnerable population. We can't expect them to hide from this forever while we drag it out. The longer this is around the more chance they have of getting it. Protect the vulnerable, massively increase care capacity, and everyone else go about your life and expect to get sick at some point.
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Send this info to the AMA surgeons have been wearing masks for years and they don't know there not effective
 
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I have no problem handling things like I did this morning. I wanted something from somewhere, said place had a door keeper and asked for a mask or social distancing. I complied to both. It was pleasant and a very easy situation.

It should be totally up to the businesses to conduct business as they feel they need. Just like how Brock is handling his. No one should be forced with repercussions to comply. No different than the “no shoes, no shirt, no service” signs you used to see. No ones ever been arrested and fined for going into Walmart without shoes. Simply deny the service and move on. If you really need that butter, put the fucking mask on and shut up. It’s a choice. Get your butter and get out of the way. Or churn your own, that’s the choice here.
 
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Jamie said:
probably about 200, J. hospitalization rate for Ohio is about 13%. What I want to know is how many of those 1600 new cases are ardent mask wearers? none? half? most?

I see a ton of people wearing masks, but the numbers keep going up.
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Jamie said:
probably about 200, J. hospitalization rate for Ohio is about 13%. What I want to know is how many of those 1600 new cases are ardent mask wearers? none? half? most?

I see a ton of people wearing masks, but the numbers keep going up.
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