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jagermeister

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Throw a soccer ball. Throw a shoebox.

That's quite an exaggeration. Is there ballistic significance inside of 40 yds? Blind Side contains pellets that are totally square, and I'm sure they pattern just fine out of a lot of gun/choke combos.
 

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That's quite an exaggeration. Is there ballistic significance inside of 40 yds? Blind Side contains pellets that are totally square, and I'm sure they pattern just fine out of a lot of gun/choke combos.

Yes, there definitely can be. Joes example is a little exaggerated but still true. A squared of pellet can still perform well as long as it is uniform. Uniformity will bring the ability to predict the pattern regularly.

At 40 yards and in most anything will work but some will have a better, more repeatable pattern than others. The constriction and length of choke matters as well.

The best thing to do is buy a box and pattern it. If you don't like it you can still use it until it is gone. Not like most won't kill.

Buncha sky busters ;) lol
 

bowhunter1023

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I found the shim kit for the Benelli and messed around with it last night. Feels a little better now. I'll see how it shoots here shortly hopefully.
 

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I found the shim kit for the Benelli and messed around with it last night. Feels a little better now. I'll see how it shoots here shortly hopefully.

if you want to get better at shooting ducks/geese and doves you need to find a skeet range. that will teach you to swing your gun much better than trap or even sporting clays. another thing i see guys do is lead the body and not the head of the duck. they are somewhat and optical illusion so be sure your lead is based on the head and not the body.
 

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You couldn't pay me to shoot remington shells. I'm not impressed with them at all.

I have shot hevi metal. Its a bad ass shell. Hevi metal #2 will kill anything urn gonna hunt.

True story. That's what I killed my coyote that came in putting a stalk on my new at the time ffd full body geese. Rolled him at 40 yards. I have an extrema, never any problems with it. Have shot a ton of shells out of it. Hunt everything with it.
 

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I found the shim kit for the Benelli and messed around with it last night. Feels a little better now. I'll see how it shoots here shortly hopefully.

When trying out those shims bring the gun up fast like you're shouldering at a duck. Close your eyes before you shoulder the gun. As soon as your cheek hits the comb open your eye and check the bead. If the bead lines up like you aimed it the gun fits you and points good. Try it with each shim and see which one points better. It'll be obvious which one fits better.
 

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When trying out those shims bring the gun up fast like you're shouldering at a duck. Close your eyes before you shoulder the gun. As soon as your cheek hits the comb open your eye and check the bead. If the bead lines up like you aimed it the gun fits you and points good. Try it with each shim and see which one points better. It'll be obvious which one fits better.

Wouldn't hurt adding a board and shooting at it and seeing how that hold is working down range.
 

bowhunter1023

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When trying out those shims bring the gun up fast like you're shouldering at a duck. Close your eyes before you shoulder the gun. As soon as your cheek hits the comb open your eye and check the bead. If the bead lines up like you aimed it the gun fits you and points good. Try it with each shim and see which one points better. It'll be obvious which one fits better.

That's what I was doing. I flat out smacked the shit outta the drake I killed yesterday and it wasn't an easy shot, however it was just like one of the clays we throw, so it was a shot I've made a 1,000 times. I know I'm not following through as well as I could be, so there is definitely some operator era in all of this. I'm headed to Dunhams today to snag a couple different boxes of shells to try out.

What is an effective distance and acceptable number of pellets to judge what I'm shooting?
 

jagermeister

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That's what I was doing. I flat out smacked the shit outta the drake I killed yesterday and it wasn't an easy shot, however it was just like one of the clays we throw, so it was a shot I've made a 1,000 times. I know I'm not following through as well as I could be, so there is definitely some operator era in all of this. I'm headed to Dunhams today to snag a couple different boxes of shells to try out.

What is an effective distance and acceptable number of pellets to judge what I'm shooting?

I'll pattern my gun at 25 and 40 yds. Typically I dont like to see any open holes in my pattern large enough for a teal to squeeze through. I really dont pay attention to how many pellets... If I throw a pattern and think to myself, "oh ya, no duck's gonna make it past that," then I feel pretty good about it. Obviously uniformity in a pattern is very important as well. Draw a side profile (life size) of a flying duck and shoot it. That'll give you a really good idea of what to expect. Then its just up to you to put the pattern where it needs to be at the moment of truth.
 

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Good reminder of why I shoot Winchester and Remington ammo. Went to 3 places in a city next to a river and the only steel shot you can find is Winchester and Remington varieties. One box of Hevi-Shot for 20 gauge.

I'll probably have to order stuff.
 

jagermeister

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Good reminder of why I shoot Winchester and Remington ammo. Went to 3 places in a city next to a river and the only steel shot you can find is Winchester and Remington varieties. One box of Hevi-Shot for 20 gauge.

I'll probably have to order stuff.

It's really slim pickin's right now. I checked Duhnams and Rural King and Dicks in the last couple days and neither place had what I was looking for. It sucks... I'm dangerously low on ammo!
 

bowhunter1023

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Same here man, I'm LOW! It's not a matter of being out here, no one carries steel and of they do, there's only a couple of options. It's like no one waterfowl hunts here...
 

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With the melting.snow and rain coming. This weekend.could be interesting. Should.make fields hot spots. Hoping.to see some fields flood....when.it does that this time of year its usually.killer for mallets
 

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I decided to bite the bullet and take up this duck and goose hunting. Should be interesting. Complete newbie. I have been reading on forums and magazines as much as i can. I bought a Beretta a300 to get started with. Looking forward to getting out over the next month. I decided for now to go with Kent Fasteel and got the Medium Carlson choke. After Christmas im think about grabbing me a pattern master choke.
 
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bowhunter1023

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I'm screwed this weekend because I don't have a field to hunt. They're calling for 3" of rain in the next 3 days here. So I'm going to do something crazy tomorrow. We're heading to AEP to scout and hopefully jump shoot some birds. I have no idea what to expect. I spent 2 hours looking at aerial mapping the ponds/lakes that are closest to crop fields, so we'll check those first. Might be a complete waste of time, but at least I'll know that.
 

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Sorry for the highjack but has anyone used a 20ga. for waterfowl? I'm lovin this M-2 and want TOO try it out. I would use one of the heavy shot loads and in three inch it has to be 1 1/4 oz.'s so that should be pretty good. I shot it with number four lead and at thirty yards the pattern was great so fourty should be good.
 

jagermeister

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Sorry for the highjack but has anyone used a 20ga. for waterfowl? I'm lovin this M-2 and want TOO try it out. I would use one of the heavy shot loads and in three inch it has to be 1 1/4 oz.'s so that should be pretty good. I shot it with number four lead and at thirty yards the pattern was great so fourty should be good.

I've seen a fair number of 20's in the marsh. Seems like most guys opt for the high performance loads like hevishot and kent tungsten matrix. Plenty of punch for most waterfowl inside of 30 yds.
 

GoetsTalon

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Cool!!! Seeing geese on both sides of I-280 and while checking snares today i seen a big flock of mallards heading south but low enough TOO look like they wanted to land somewhere. Since goose goes to the end of january this year theres a chance for this season but most likely it will be next year. Now all i have to do is find the ammo and find out how well it patterns with the tungsten!!!