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bowhunter1023

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I forgot all about tiller measurements, but I still couldn't find my cheat sheet on twist/untwist for movement and that's where I was struggling the most. The magic sauce was 1 full twist to each end of the string and a half untwist of the cable put me right in spec and drove a bullet hole. Just checked tiller and we golden!
 

bowhunter1023

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So I have been experimenting with the heavy arrow combos all off season and finally settled things up yesterday. @Isaacorps and I have a running text thread on this, so I wanted to share the results we've discussed here for others to learn from.

I've been shooting a 500-ish grain FMJ that's roughly 10.5% FOC, and I've been shooting a 600-ish grain Axis that's almost 12% FOC. The first night I shot them side-by-side, I was shocked at the pin difference between the two. The 600s were a whole pin different, so my 20 became my 30, 30 my 40, and so on. When we hit the chronograph, the 500s were at 260 and the 600s at 240. The 500s patterned better, but I was in love with how the 600s impacted, so I was still on Team 6-Hundo.

At this point, I start to scratch my head a little and do a once over on my bow. I knew my string was near it's end, so I orded an ABB Platinum, then waited and waited and waited for it to arrive. It got here last week, so I measured the specs on my bow and sure enough, my ATA was 0.25" out and my brace height was off 0.125". As mentioned, I swapped the string and got the bow back in spec, then paper tuned with the 600 grain arrow. Last night I installed my peep and shot my broadheads and the 600s were impacting spot on with my "500 pins". When I checked the chronograph, I was bumping above 255.

The moral of the story here is to give due respect to your string and don't be afraid to spend a little $ on a good one. At $180, the ABB Platinum hurts, but after seeing the rejuvenation it gave my bow, it was $ well spent. My other string was from a company I've used for a long time, but I feel their quality has went way down hill. I wore that string out in less than 1K shots. I'm admit to being hard on stuff, but that's still not acceptable IMO. I put a premium string on a 13 year old bow and she feels brand new! And who can argue with a Switchback XT that still shoots a 600 grain arrow at 255 fps!
 
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So I have been experimenting with the heavy arrow combos all off season and finally settled things up yesterday. @Isaacorps and I have a running text thread on this, so I wanted to share the results we've discussed here for others to learn from.

I've been shooting a 500-ish grain FMJ that's roughly 10.5% FOC, and I've been shooting a 600-ish grain Axis that's almost 12% FOC. The first night I shot them side-by-side, I was shocked at the pin difference between the two. The 600s were a whole pin different, so my 20 became my 30, 30 my 40, and so on. When we hit the chronograph, the 500s were at 260 and the 600s at 240. The 500s patterned better, but I was in love with how the 600s impacted, so I was still on Team 6-Hundo.

At this point, I start to scratch my head a little and do a once over on my bow. I knew my string was near it's end, so I orded an ABB Platinum, then waited and waited and waited for it to arrive. It got here last week, so I measured the specs on my bow and sure enough, my ATA was 0.25" out and my brace height was off 0.125". As mentioned, I swapped the string and got the bow back in spec, then paper tuned with the 600 grain arrow. Last night I installed my peep and shot my broadheads and the 600s were impacting spot on with my "500 pins". When I checked the chronograph, I was bumping above 255.

The moral of the story here is to give due respect to your string and don't be afraid to spend a little $ on a good one. At $180, the ABB Platinum hurts, but after seeing the rejuvenation it gave my bow, it was $ well spent. My other string was from a company I've used for a long time, but I feel their quality has went way down hill. I wore that string out in less than 1K shots. I'm admit to being hard on stuff, but that's still not acceptable IMO. I put a premium string on a 13 year old bow and she feels brand new! And who can argue with a Switchback XT that still shoots a 600 grain arrow at 255 fps!
I would’ve been pulling my hair out waiting on that string this close to the season 😂. Nothing like having a plan come together the way you envisioned. Can’t wait to see the “live” results of the new setup!
 
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bowhunter1023

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Spent my Christmas $ already 😎 I'm excited to get this in my hand and shoot it a bunch. Similar mechanism as my Stan, but a much different feel. Might be a Stan Shootoff for sale soon...

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Allen and I shot our bows for quite a while yesterday for the first time in well over a month. We both shot real well and he even shot some more today. I am planning on using mine for the entire weekend coming up and he will use his at least Friday and maybe another day or two as he really wants to kill something with it.
 
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bowhunter1023

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Did you like the 6 inch brace? Might want to shoot that with hunting clothes on
I shot 20 arrows or so without any complaint. I had a jacket on, but not quite the bulk of a cold November morning. I was impressed with how dead it was and once I got a feel for the draw cycle, I was feeling it. I'll probably shoot another 50 arrows through it before they get my cash, but it's my favorite new bow in quite a while.
 

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On a 7 inch brace it’s going to be a 330 ibo bow... was it a monster draw cycle?
 

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On a 7 inch brace it’s going to be a 330 ibo bow... was it a monster draw cycle?
No. Smooth to the wall, no harsh breakover like the Monster. Wall is solid, so that took a few shots to feel out given how spongy the XT is. With nothing on the bow and no wrist sling, I could shoot open handed and the bow stayed put. The longer riser definitely seems to deliver on the hype, at least in my hands.
 
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Did you shoot anything else? I shot the V3 31 and Ventum 33. The Mathews was definitely the most dead in the hand but the draw was very stiff compared to the Hoyt. It was so much stiffer I had them recheck draw weights. Both were great bows but I went with the Hoyt.
 

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Tonight's group at 40 with the new release from John Dudley. This is a collab with Carter, so it's smooth as butter. I'm sold on the 2-finger model after a 100 of so shots. I'm still in conditioning mode after a few months off, but my mechanics feel good with the new release and that's a good place to be in April.
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bowhunter1023

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Black Gold custom builds with a lead time of 9-14 weeks :oops: After a lot of research and deliberation, I've decided to move into the world of sliders. I'll be sending my Spot Hogg Hogg It back for repairs and will keep it as a back-up. I also ordered an offset mount and 6" rear stablizer to help me combat my "half bubble off" situation. Been shooting 3-4 dozen arrows a week and still loving the new release from John Dudley. Lots of tinkering makes for a fun off season!

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