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Ohiosam

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Forcing nursing homes to take coronavirus patients is just insane — and evil

Of all the missteps in the early days of the coronavirus crisis, New York state’s Health Department may have committed the worst: ordering nursing homes to accept residents who tested positive for COVID-19.

Instead of quarantining the folks most vulnerable to the disease, the state encouraged its spread: 85 percent of the state’s confirmed deaths from the bug are people over 60, with nearly a quarter of all corona fatalities coming in nursing or adult-care facilities — and at least 2,210 such deaths tallied in the city.

And when asked why these residents and workers weren’t better protected, Gov. Andrew Cuomo answered Wednesday, it “wasn’t our job.” It was up to privately run homes to keep infected people isolated; if they needed help, the governor magnanimously offered, they should’ve asked.

No. It was up to the state to contain the spread. That’s why visitors have been banned from nursing homes since the start of the outbreak.

As best we can tell, Dr. Howard Zucker, the state’s health commissioner, made his order so these patients could be released from stressed hospitals — but that doesn’t make it any less callous.

At the least, the state should now dedicate a few already-contaminated homes to COVID-19 cases, if not set up some special facilities like the one in the Javits Center.

Instead, the state has allowed casualties to mount, with some homes even having to leave the dead in their rooms for lack of a place to store them.

Despite all evidence to the contrary, Zucker claims the nursing homes are equipped to protect and segregate the corona-stricken. But critics such as Assemblyman Ron Kim (D-Queens) report that many lack the equipment, trained staff and/or protocols to control it. He explains: “The staff, the families, everyone is telling me there’s completely a lack of support and they don’t have the necessary PPE [personal protective equipment] to be safe.”

Mayor Bill de Blasio, meanwhile, has been sending coronavirus patients to the city’s public nursing home on Roosevelt Island — where staff and local officials say the virus is spreading to its vulnerable, high-risk residents. Many are wheelchair-bound and/or chronically ill. Wrong place to be in tune with the governor, Mr. Mayor.

But it’s Cuomo who really needs to act. “I am wondering who will hold Gov. Cuomo accountable for the deaths of so many older people due to his reckless decision,” Arlene Mullin, whose mom died of the virus in a New York home, writes to The Post’s Michael Goodwin.

Override Zucker, governor — then fire him.


https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/forci...coronavirus-patients-is-just-insane-and-evil/
 

Blan37

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From the WTF department: apparently because of COVID it's unsafe to swim now because of "Fecal shedding." :poop:

IDPH does regulate pools, and if we want to get into the different microbes that exist within pools – different swimming pools – we can do that. But definitely, the practice of obviously being in a swimming pool, unfortunately, we do know that there is some fecal shedding of this coronavirus,” Ezike said, barely able to stop herself from laughing as she did so.

There are other reasons that swimming pools should not be opened for now, Ezike said.


https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/0...ronavirus-pandemic-because-of-fecal-shedding/
 
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Jackalope

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Forcing nursing homes to take coronavirus patients is just insane — and evil

Of all the missteps in the early days of the coronavirus crisis, New York state’s Health Department may have committed the worst: ordering nursing homes to accept residents who tested positive for COVID-19.

Instead of quarantining the folks most vulnerable to the disease, the state encouraged its spread: 85 percent of the state’s confirmed deaths from the bug are people over 60, with nearly a quarter of all corona fatalities coming in nursing or adult-care facilities — and at least 2,210 such deaths tallied in the city.

And when asked why these residents and workers weren’t better protected, Gov. Andrew Cuomo answered Wednesday, it “wasn’t our job.” It was up to privately run homes to keep infected people isolated; if they needed help, the governor magnanimously offered, they should’ve asked.

No. It was up to the state to contain the spread. That’s why visitors have been banned from nursing homes since the start of the outbreak.

As best we can tell, Dr. Howard Zucker, the state’s health commissioner, made his order so these patients could be released from stressed hospitals — but that doesn’t make it any less callous.

At the least, the state should now dedicate a few already-contaminated homes to COVID-19 cases, if not set up some special facilities like the one in the Javits Center.

Instead, the state has allowed casualties to mount, with some homes even having to leave the dead in their rooms for lack of a place to store them.

Despite all evidence to the contrary, Zucker claims the nursing homes are equipped to protect and segregate the corona-stricken. But critics such as Assemblyman Ron Kim (D-Queens) report that many lack the equipment, trained staff and/or protocols to control it. He explains: “The staff, the families, everyone is telling me there’s completely a lack of support and they don’t have the necessary PPE [personal protective equipment] to be safe.”

Mayor Bill de Blasio, meanwhile, has been sending coronavirus patients to the city’s public nursing home on Roosevelt Island — where staff and local officials say the virus is spreading to its vulnerable, high-risk residents. Many are wheelchair-bound and/or chronically ill. Wrong place to be in tune with the governor, Mr. Mayor.

But it’s Cuomo who really needs to act. “I am wondering who will hold Gov. Cuomo accountable for the deaths of so many older people due to his reckless decision,” Arlene Mullin, whose mom died of the virus in a New York home, writes to The Post’s Michael Goodwin.

Override Zucker, governor — then fire him.


https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/forci...coronavirus-patients-is-just-insane-and-evil/


Wow.... I can't begin to form words for how inept that is..
 
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Fletch

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Wow.... I can't begin to form words for how inept that is..
Well you gotta look where it came from... Cuomo is NO GOOD... Same guy that let a cop killer out of jail a year or two ago... Cop was pleading for his life and THE SCUM shot him execution style.. Then they parole the scum.. Then again the cops should have shot the son of bitch when they captured him...
 

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Anyone notice that the female news anchors are starting to look like shit, since they don't have a make up artist doing their makeup up prior to going on air... Reminds me of that one Batman movie..
 

Ohiosam

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One thing a lot of us don’t think about with this CV thing is the toll it takes on people’s minds especially if they have other health issues. Having to be secluded with limited interaction with other family can wear on a person. Found out one of our neighbors down the road, who was going through a lot the last several years health wise, yesterday she decided to take her own life. I grew up with their kids, they are my mom and dads age. Would have been their 50th anniversary later this year. Spent many days over there at their house as a kid and man it just kicks you in the gut to know a lot of it was due to depression combined with the virus and being stuck at home not able to visit grand kids.
 

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One thing a lot of us don’t think about with this CV thing is the toll it takes on people’s minds especially if they have other health issues. Having to be secluded with limited interaction with other family can wear on a person. Found out one of our neighbors down the road, who was going through a lot the last several years health wise, yesterday she decided to take her own life. I grew up with their kids, they are my mom and dads age. Would have been their 50th anniversary later this year. Spent many days over there at their house as a kid and man it just kicks you in the gut to know a lot of it was due to depression combined with the virus and being stuck at home not able to visit grand kids.

Sad. Unfortunately many forget about the mental health aspect as it's largely a silent condition that doesn't grab headlines.
 

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North Korea’s dictator is pretty much toast from what’s being reported. In a vegetative stare and not expected too pull through it.... His sister is acting on his behalf. Don’t know if she’s as bad as he was, or the good one that was killed was the only good one? Time will tell...
 

Fletch

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North Korea’s dictator is pretty much toast from what’s being reported. In a vegetative stare and not expected too pull through it.... His sister is acting on his behalf. Don’t know if she’s as bad as he was, or the good one that was killed was the only good one? Time will tell...
All I can say is I wouldn't want to be the doctor that preformed the proceedure....