View attachment 104257He looks like a Lab doesn’t he? This jack ass won’t even retrieve a frisbee, there’s no retriever in his dna
I would put my aussie doodles intelligents up against any lab, if the one wasnt gun shy, she would be a perfect retriever. Like others have said there are stupid dogs or stupid owner in all breeds but so far with our 2 been very impressed.Well, sorta. Most of the BLANK-doodles, BLANK-apoos, silvers, etc are all relatively “new” breeds... They didn’t come on the scene and gain popularity until the last 10-20 years. Matter of fact, the “inventor” of the Labradoodle has gone on record to say he regrets the whole thing. There are some versatile bird dog breeds nowadays but most serious hunting dog breeds haven’t changed much for over a 100 years.
I would put an Aussie’s intelligence up against Elon Musk. You could cross an Aussie with a nematode and it’d have more brain power than most dogs. But intelligence doesn’t necessarily make a good hunting dog. Prey drive is a big factor, among others. I totally agree with what you’re saying though... There are plenty of crossed dogs out there that are good dogs, just like there are plenty of purebreds that are total shitbags.I would put my aussie doodles intelligents up against any lab, if the one wasnt gun shy, she would be a perfect retriever. Like others have said there are stupid dogs or stupid owner in all breeds but so far with our 2 been very impressed.
Making fun of the dyslexic guy who typed that on his phone while taking a shit half a sleep before work at 6 in the morning. There will be hell to pay at the Summer gathering!*Intelligence.
Sorry, I had to.
But don't we buy certain breeds for certain reasons, typically if the owner/trainer is worth a shit with a pure bred, you have pretty good idea what you are getting.It's not the dog's intelligence that's in question....
You and Jesse may punch me in the face for this, is retrieving waterfowl really prey drive, or is it teaching a dog a really complicated game of fetch/commands? I mean you are teaching a dog to stay in place and retrieve a dead or wounded animal on command after shooting a gun next to its ear and giving the dog different directions, a dog has to be pretty smart to do all those things. I onced seen a jack russel retrieve pheasants on a hunting show, the guide said the jack just started mimicking the other dogs, there the jack was on tv retrieving pheasants and bring em back to the hunters.I would put an Aussie’s intelligence up against Elon Musk. You could cross an Aussie with a nematode and it’d have more brain power than most dogs. But intelligence doesn’t necessarily make a good hunting dog. Prey drive is a big factor, among others. I totally agree with what you’re saying though... There are plenty of crossed dogs out there that are good dogs, just like there are plenty of purebreds that are total shitbags.
Your basic run of the mill retrievers with basic training will “just retrieve” ducks, yes. But give them a cripple that’s diving, or a bird that sailed out of sight, or 100 yards of skim ice to break through on the way to the bird... that basic fetch command isn’t going to amount to much. And when I mention prey drive, I’m referring to more than just retrieving. There are so many traits that make a great hunting dog that you can’t hardly put them down in text. You have to see the dog do certain little things to really wrap your head around it. They are special animals. And they are certainly not all created equal. To your point, yes, you can teach a dog to do just about anything. But it’s the things you can’t teach them that really make them special and set them apart from other dogs.You and Jesse may punch me in the face for this, is retrieving waterfowl really prey drive, or is it teaching a dog a really complicated game of fetch/commands? I mean you are teaching a dog to stay in place and retrieve a dead or wounded animal on command after shooting a gun next to its ear and giving the dog different directions, a dog has to be pretty smart to do all those things. I onced seen a jack russel retrieve pheasants on a hunting show, the guide said the jack just started mimicking the other dogs, there the jack was on tv retrieving pheasants and bring em back to the hunters.