I just had a good talk with OS Steve and as a result, there a few things that need to be addressed here on TOO. The long and short of it is there was a virtual handshake extended this time as opposed to the virtual chest bumps exchanged between he and I over the past 24 hours. I expected the converstation to head in one direction, when in reality we had a good talk and he is not as bad a guy as we may have painted him to be. He even apologized for using "poacher" in describing our actions and we actually agreed on our respective takes regarding some members. I left with a good impression and more respect from him and his mode of opperation than I had before. He agreed to forget everything that was said and all that has happened in exchange for my word to cease some of the "actions" that have taken place. I granted him that wish and gave him my word I would speak with the troops.
With that being said, I am asking all TOO members (Jack and I are held to the same standard) to cease all OS bashing. (We can still have a laugh at the expense of the dumbasses because we would do that if we were there!) We did not intend for innocent bystanders to get drug into the battle Jack and I had going with Steve. I gave Steve my word that we would no longer use OS as an avenue to contact and recruit new members. This includes all TOO members. Anyone that had their accounts modified, will have them restored tonight. No one will be banned, including me. I am as much an instigator of this TOO vs. OS shenanigans as much as the next guy. I too will be on my best behavior on TOO and when/if I visit OS. Please do not use the chat room or your PM's to advance TOO or cause harm to OS in any manner. If someone asks where you have been, have them send you an email and talk about it there. And do not post or send our URL anywhere on OS.
Those of you who saw my post on OS, saw I meant business. I did not expect it to go the way it did and that is why I agreed to play nice in the sandbox. Steve earned some respect from me tonight as a result. Those of you on TOO that have respect for me, should in turn understand where I am coming from with this and you should have no problem keeping it between the lines. Joe and I did not intend for this to get out of control. But as you all know, the internet has a funny way of taking things and causing them to spiral out of control in no time flat. If you still post on OS and want to belong there, please DO NOT feel that those of us dedicated to TOO think any less of you. Starting today, we will all make an effort to leave behind the "us vs. them" mentality and focus on building TOO in a manner that is both proper and respectful to whoever we might encounter along the way. Particularly in regards to Steve and OS. If we do have a problem, that is where the beauty of our Private Forum comes into play. Take it to that playground...
With that being said, I'm going to have our first TOO call out. There is a member, or members, of TOO who feel the need to be Steve's watch dog here on TOO. That person(s) is sending Steve PM's with TOO content, of which Steve has taken out of context. This person has also forwarded OS PM's to Steve. Rest assured we have a damn good idea of who this person(s) is, so let this serve as your warning. You too are expected to knock off the bullshit. The next time something comes up and Steve calls me, because he assured me all things will be handled via phone from now on, you will be called to the forefront of TOO and asked to explain your position. If you don't want to belong over here, or you are here simply to report anything remotely anti-OS to Steve, then I'll ask you send Joe or I a PM and we will delete your account. If we as a group are going to move forward from here, so will you. And your backstabbing bullshit will not be tolerated.
I think that sums it up. We all get a little worked up this time of year and it shows from time to time! We can kill things in T-minus 85 hours or so. Let's get those final preparations of out the way and get to enjoying our fall...
With that being said, I am asking all TOO members (Jack and I are held to the same standard) to cease all OS bashing. (We can still have a laugh at the expense of the dumbasses because we would do that if we were there!) We did not intend for innocent bystanders to get drug into the battle Jack and I had going with Steve. I gave Steve my word that we would no longer use OS as an avenue to contact and recruit new members. This includes all TOO members. Anyone that had their accounts modified, will have them restored tonight. No one will be banned, including me. I am as much an instigator of this TOO vs. OS shenanigans as much as the next guy. I too will be on my best behavior on TOO and when/if I visit OS. Please do not use the chat room or your PM's to advance TOO or cause harm to OS in any manner. If someone asks where you have been, have them send you an email and talk about it there. And do not post or send our URL anywhere on OS.
Those of you who saw my post on OS, saw I meant business. I did not expect it to go the way it did and that is why I agreed to play nice in the sandbox. Steve earned some respect from me tonight as a result. Those of you on TOO that have respect for me, should in turn understand where I am coming from with this and you should have no problem keeping it between the lines. Joe and I did not intend for this to get out of control. But as you all know, the internet has a funny way of taking things and causing them to spiral out of control in no time flat. If you still post on OS and want to belong there, please DO NOT feel that those of us dedicated to TOO think any less of you. Starting today, we will all make an effort to leave behind the "us vs. them" mentality and focus on building TOO in a manner that is both proper and respectful to whoever we might encounter along the way. Particularly in regards to Steve and OS. If we do have a problem, that is where the beauty of our Private Forum comes into play. Take it to that playground...
With that being said, I'm going to have our first TOO call out. There is a member, or members, of TOO who feel the need to be Steve's watch dog here on TOO. That person(s) is sending Steve PM's with TOO content, of which Steve has taken out of context. This person has also forwarded OS PM's to Steve. Rest assured we have a damn good idea of who this person(s) is, so let this serve as your warning. You too are expected to knock off the bullshit. The next time something comes up and Steve calls me, because he assured me all things will be handled via phone from now on, you will be called to the forefront of TOO and asked to explain your position. If you don't want to belong over here, or you are here simply to report anything remotely anti-OS to Steve, then I'll ask you send Joe or I a PM and we will delete your account. If we as a group are going to move forward from here, so will you. And your backstabbing bullshit will not be tolerated.
I think that sums it up. We all get a little worked up this time of year and it shows from time to time! We can kill things in T-minus 85 hours or so. Let's get those final preparations of out the way and get to enjoying our fall...
