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2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

The latest from California on health department pseudoscience bullshit overreach on lockdowns.

Someone should call their damn bluff and fight it in the court system. Where do they have that right to tell you to not have a TV on superbowl or not. It's either safe to eat in a restaurant for some amount of time or it's not.


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I have a question for any of you folks in health care/medical fields that might know. If I have gotten Covid 19 twice and fully recovered from it with only mild symptoms, am I as safe from getting it again as somebody that that has never had it but gets the vaccine? safer? I guess what I'm really asking is is my natural immune response better for me than that caused by the vaccine? the same? not as good?
 
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Back about Thanksgiving my nephew (he's 37) got Covid. He's really big 6'3" 350-400 pounds. Seemed to be a moderate case at first. But then it turned into really bad pneumonia and he ended up in the ICU for about a week. His lungs were badly scarred and his blood O2 levels were very low. Came home on O2 and after 3 or 4 days they rushed him back to the ER. He had a perforated bowel that the DR said was caused by the lack of oxygen. He needed a temporary colostomy. But there were problems with infections and they had to redo the surgery.

He goes home again, still on O2. A couple more days at home and he goes back to the ER with severe stomach pains, more infections. Back in ICU, more IV antibiotics, O2 levels are still bad, resting heart rate of 130. He finally came home Thursday.

He is very, very weak, has to use a walker. He spent over 40 days in the hospital, not sure how many in ICU but I'm sure at least 20. His wife could vist a little when he wasn't in ICU, the kids couldn't see him in the hospital. He's in for a long recovery. In 6 months he can have the colostomy reversed.
 
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Very sorry to hear this. Prayers for his full recovery!! I hear often about the 99+/-% recovery rate but there are plenty of people having lifelong problems well after getting it. My co-worker who came down with it the same time as I and 2 others did is still having problems, 2 1/2 months later. His immune system has been compromised so badly that he has to work 100% from home as he goes in and out of dr offices and hospitals for tests. It took me over a month before I didn’t have constant fatigue and I still don’t feel right now. Not saying everyone should be paranoid but man it isn’t something that just goes away for many of that 99%.
 
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Jamie said:
I have a question for any of you folks in health care/medical fields that might know. If I have gotten Covid 19 twice and fully recovered from it with only mild symptoms, am I as safe from getting it again as somebody that that has never had it but gets the vaccine? safer? I guess what I'm really asking is is my natural immune response better for me than that caused by the vaccine? the same? not as good?
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It's hard to say as it seems each case is different. The shot targets the spike protein that the virus vehicle uses to attach to your cells ACE2 receiver and inject its viral RNA payload into your cell for replication. Think about it like the airlock on a space shuttle docking with the international space station's lock door. The shot causes the cells to reject the connection. But it's not 100% meaning some cells will still dock and inject their viral RNA into a cell and that cell will still replicate the DNA and produce more viral cells. However it will be less than if it didn't reject connections. The overall viral payload will be less meaning people will be less sick. Still infected but less so.

Your immune system after infection with the live virus recognizes it as an invader and builds an immune response to the RNA that the virus-cell injects into the cell for replication. Instead of replicating it, your cell destroys it as soon as it enters. Vaccines work in a similar manner by using dead or weakened virus strains. It teaches your body to identify and attack the viral RNA.

It's a misnomer to call this a vaccination or immunization in the traditional usage of the word.

To answer your question. In a perfect world a natural immunity coupled with the shot provides better protection. Your bodies natural immunity to the virus RNA, and the shots ability to block docking with your cell in the first place.

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Hedgelj said:
www.newsweek.com

COVID Anal Swabs for Beijing Residents More Accurate, Says Chinese Expert

Hundreds of thousands living in a key Beijing district have undergone antibody tests, as well as throat, nasal and anal swabs as the Chinese capital attempts to halt its second wave.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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GoetsTalon said:
So how far up your ass do they have to go? Just asking because with last year and this year it's get pretty crowded up there with all the bullshit.
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Probably not far. They've been doing viral load testing on wastewater at sewage treatment plants for a while now. Ohio was doing it also. Gives then an idea of the virus load in the community. Supposedly.
 
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