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East Palestine Derailment and Fire

Bigcountry40

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Any train guys have insight to this BS excuse?
So tankers could be mixed in with others cars and it would be a giant pain in the ass to make sure each designated tanker had this brake system compared to the standard air break system and I would imagine this would really slow down operations and be an absolute bitch unless all the railroads switched to the brake system at once. Just a guess, it’s been over 10 years , I was there for 6 months
 

"J"

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My understanding of the original intent was for the coal cars. Since they’re the heaviest off all the cars and usually have multiple cars when hauling.
 

"J"

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Timeline on this doesn’t make sense to me. I lived in Salem and am very familiar with the area and where the train went by. 40-45 minutes from when the train went by in Salem, heading east towards East Palestine seems an excessive amount on time. Especially by rail with really no stops between them.
 

Bigcountry40

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My understanding of the original intent was for the coal cars. Since they’re the heaviest off all the cars and usually have multiple cars when hauling.
Coal cars are really long also, typically the longest and are nothing but coal, so that system would make sense for that
 
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"J"

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People will forever twist things to not be their fault. When the truth is, most regulations that are worth a damn come from accidents/mishaps.
I may be wrong on the spacing of the sensors that are supposed too warn the engineers of this condition. 20 miles is what I remember. I’d imagine that’ll shrink here in the future.
There was also a video of the train going through New Waterford (town before East Palestine) with the gear pretty close too the same situation. But never saw the timeline on it. But it was supposed too be the same train.
 

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I may be wrong on the spacing of the sensors that are supposed too warn the engineers of this condition. 20 miles is what I remember. I’d imagine that’ll shrink here in the future.
There was also a video of the train going through New Waterford (town before East Palestine) with the gear pretty close too the same situation. But never saw the timeline on it. But it was supposed too be the same train.
Is that the one of a ring camera or something on someone's porch 50' off the tracks?
 

Bigcountry40

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I may be wrong on the spacing of the sensors that are supposed too warn the engineers of this condition. 20 miles is what I remember. I’d imagine that’ll shrink here in the future.
There was also a video of the train going through New Waterford (town before East Palestine) with the gear pretty close too the same situation. But never saw the timeline on it. But it was supposed too be the same train.
I don’t remember EOT lengths with the sensors I thought it varied in spots
 

Bigcountry40

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It probably does, but in that area (lots of hills) the 20 miles sticks in my mind for some reason.
In Pennsylvania there are a lot of dead areas, dispatchdidn’t know where you were at and a train controlled that track until the conductor radioed it in. Only reason I know this is my train school teacher told us he used to stop the train to get ice cream somewhere in Pennsylvania next to a town with a good ma and pa ice cream stand when he was making a certain run
 

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"J"

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In Pennsylvania there are a lot of dead areas, dispatchdidn’t know where you were at and a train controlled that track until the conductor radioed it in. Only reason I know this is my train school teacher told us he used to stop the train to get ice cream somewhere in Pennsylvania next to a town with a good ma and pa ice cream stand when he was making a certain run
I’ve seen a lot of things while on stand next too those tracks. I have friends who maintain those tracks (signals and switches) and always ask them what’s going on. Usually they’ll let me know. You’ll see a lot of trains stop. Usually allowing another train too pass them up with a higher priority. Sometimes it’s a breakdown and usually it’s an overheat warning or lost air pressure.
 

Bigcountry40

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Funny thing about Old Peter is understanding railroad regs and procedure is not walk in the park, those dudes that are dispatch and yard masters been training and in The railroad for a longtime. Bad bearings on cars are fairly common and should been caught by the conductor on the initial departure check. It may have not appeared hot. Peter won’t have clue, he know nothing about hazmat or railroads lol