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Just what I fuggin need 67 days before the season starts.

I been battling Tendonitis in my bow arm since last summer..:smiley_boos:I shot my 07 Bear at 54lb all season.I got my 2010 Z28 in Feb an figured I would start with it turned down post injury.An I had not shot for a few months..Had it at about 52lb an it was great..I could shoot for an hour an it wouldn't bother me..So I turned it up..After one session at 62lb the elbow demon:smiley_devil: was back again..So I turned it down AGAIN for awhile an all was well..Got my new Release an I am feeling good.Turn the bow back up..An bam sore again an im shooting like shit the entire time...I figure maybe TOO soft a trigger on the thumb release..I set it for just about max tension an very little travel and go an shoot..As soon as i get on the dot I am trying to blast the fuggin trigger..It dont go off due to the heavy trigger tension..But I am flinching baddd an jerking so bad i wanna vomit an then punch myself thinking about it..

So here I sit not able to shoot an work out my demons with 67 days to go...Im going to give it a few days an if the pain dont let go..Its off to the quack for some fixing:smiley_brancard:..If its better in a few days..Im gonna rest it 1 more week an start shooting blank bale/blind bail..And try an work out my demons..If i am not happy with the result..I will have a Fully rigged 2010 Z28,arrows,case Slick trick mags everything for sale.I figure its worth a few bucks..An I will be looking at Ten point X bows.:smiley_couch:.If i can shoot a compound without pain an get some of my mojo back..I will hunt with 50lbs I see no shame in that..Hell 40 fuggin pound :smiley_chinrub:is fine if i can be accurate with it...

Thanks for listening guys..I needed to vent
 

jagermeister

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That really sucks man. Don't get too down about it, though... I know 67 days doesn't seem like many, but that's plenty of time to get back into the swing of things. If you're having recurring problems with that elbow you need to go get it checked out right now... not later. There's obviously something wrong there. Prolonging the visit to the Doc is only going to prolong the time it takes you to properly heal. If there's nothing they can do for you, just keep shooting the bow at low poundage. It'll still kill 'em dead. It's not like shooting 50-something pounds makes you a pussy or anything. If that's what you have to do to get out there and shoot, then do it.
 
Yeah I aint on any macho crap..If I can shoot accurate an pain free at any weight I will be happy..I am just trying not to settle for the pie plate groups type stuff(which is fine if someone does)..Jim you an I both know these bows are tack drivers so the only excuse for poor shooting is the shooter..Thanks for the support bro
 

jagermeister

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Yeah I aint on any macho crap..If I can shoot accurate an pain free at any weight I will be happy..I am just trying not to settle for the pie plate groups type stuff(which is fine if someone does)..Jim you an I both know these bows are tack drivers so the only excuse for poor shooting is the shooter..Thanks for the support bro

I can't blame you at all for that, man. You're right... these bows are accurate as hell. So when you know its capabilities it makes these types of problems that much more frustrating. Get your elbow healthy, then move on to the blank bales. You'll be fine.
 

Diablo54

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I pull 45lbs on my widow. Sure i could pull a hell of alot moore but i dont need to. Shoot it at 50 and have fun!
 

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I would also think about changing releases if you have an extra....if only for a little bit. I had a release that was broke and I didn't know it until it went off twice while drawing back. I got the flinch something fierce. Another thing I did that really helped also was shooting at a target 5 yards away.... Don't aim just "ssssqqquuueeezzeee" the trigger until release a bunch of times just to get your muscle memory back and correct form

Flinches suck and take a bit.

Beentown
 
I would also think about changing releases if you have an extra....if only for a little bit. I had a release that was broke and I didn't know it until it went off twice while drawing back. I got the flinch something fierce. Another thing I did that really helped also was shooting at a target 5 yards away.... Don't aim just "ssssqqquuueeezzeee" the trigger until release a bunch of times just to get your muscle memory back and correct form

Flinches suck and take a bit.

Beentown

Yeah my plan once pain free is to shoot 15 to 30min a day..With a target at shoulder level an my eyes closed..Purely focusing on shot sequence an trigger execution,,Do that for about 10 days..Then the next 10days do like 15 or 20min of that..An 10min of shooting at a dot an aiming a bit while floating the pin..Last 10 days is all target dot shooting unless I feel myself thinking about the release. .Then its back to bale work.I know that 30 days seems like a long time. But it might be necessary.An i think the reason I noticed the jerking was cause the shot didnt go off(not due to malfunction)..I bet i been jerking prior but I didn't notice due to the lighter trigger letting the shot go off..My shooting was equally as bad prior to the release swap..I hope I am making sense here
 

hickslawns

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Just a thought: Get her dialed in at the lower poundage that doesn't bother you. Do whatever you need to do to release your flinching demons. Go out and shoot ONE arrow at a time. Don'tover work the arm if it is bothering you. Think of it this way, you only get one shot at a deer normally. Often times once I am dialed in, I will go out at night or morning and let one arrow fly. If I am in the close proximity of my target then that is all I need to know. Maybe hit it at 20yds morning, 30yds evening, next day 40yd/20yd, next day 25yd/35yd. . . you get my idea, just mix it up and shoot one at a time. If you have your flinch squelched and you hit your target consistently without wearing out the elbow, then this would be awesome for the confidence levels going into the season knowing you can go out cold and nail it at various yardages and knowing you are not putting extra strain on the elbow. Just some ideas.
 

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Tendinitis sucks.... had a reoccurring problem with it in the 90's.... went to the Dr after suffering with it for a couple of years.... did 4 weeks of therapy and all better.... go make an appt and get to therapy and you'll be shooting without pain by season...... more than likely..... beats not doing anything and hoping its alright.....
 

Fluteman

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Mossy, if I were you, I would set that Z at a low poundage you can shoot and hold and not get sore and just leave the dang thing there. That bow is plenty fast enough at 50lbs to kill a deer.

As far as target panic goes, it could partially be caused by the heavier poundage and holding more weight at full draw with a bum elbow. It could also be true target panic. At one time I suffered from it, and the thing that helped me the best and also worked my shoulder and form was to draw and anchor, aim and hold, then let down, not firing the bow. Do this at a distance no further than 10y a dozen times, then actually shoot one arrow, repeating the process over and over. Don't focus on aiming as much as anchoring and settling in. Don't try to hold that pin steady, just let it float around. The worse you try to fight it, the worse it usually gets. Also, having TOO stiff a trigger may be part of the problem along with the poundage of the bow. It could be a million different things man, but those are the two I would look into first. Lower the poundage and reduce the stiffness of the trigger. You may be surprised what happens.
 

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Target Panic Sucks......I had it for a little bit and the way I got rid of it was standing 10 yards away from my target and not caring on wether I shot the X, it was purely just like greg saud, draw, anchor, and release. It helps, sometimes us as archers get too worried about hitting the X everytime, and it will drive our brains crazy....

That Z will slay some deer at a low poundage, its a fast bow. Dont risk your elbow just for the sake of shooting a higher weight...It has enough KE at that weight to go through a deer...
 

DJK Frank 16

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Agreed with the others, set it to whatever is comfortable for your shoulder and practice at that poundage. I actually dropped mine down like 7 lbs last year because I was having some problems drawing and holding because of my back. I liked the way it felt so much that I never turned it back up.
 

Mike

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I've suffered with elbow tendonitis for years. Lateral and medial epicondylitis. Go and get a cortisone shot and let it rest for a week or two.
 

Hoytmania

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I am in agreement with most guys here. Get it where it is comfortable with you and leave it there. There is way to much hype around fast speeds with high poundage. Low poundage kills em just as dead if you are hitting the target where it counts.
 

Redhunter1012

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Just a thought: Get her dialed in at the lower poundage that doesn't bother you. Do whatever you need to do to release your flinching demons. Go out and shoot ONE arrow at a time. Don'tover work the arm if it is bothering you. Think of it this way, you only get one shot at a deer normally. Often times once I am dialed in, I will go out at night or morning and let one arrow fly. If I am in the close proximity of my target then that is all I need to know. Maybe hit it at 20yds morning, 30yds evening, next day 40yd/20yd, next day 25yd/35yd. . . you get my idea, just mix it up and shoot one at a time. If you have your flinch squelched and you hit your target consistently without wearing out the elbow, then this would be awesome for the confidence levels going into the season knowing you can go out cold and nail it at various yardages and knowing you are not putting extra strain on the elbow. Just some ideas.

+1 on this. I got this tip from an archery nut one time and it is usually what I do once I get my muscle memory built up after the offseason.
 
Just a thought: Get her dialed in at the lower poundage that doesn't bother you. Do whatever you need to do to release your flinching demons. Go out and shoot ONE arrow at a time. Don'tover work the arm if it is bothering you. Think of it this way, you only get one shot at a deer normally. Often times once I am dialed in, I will go out at night or morning and let one arrow fly. If I am in the close proximity of my target then that is all I need to know. Maybe hit it at 20yds morning, 30yds evening, next day 40yd/20yd, next day 25yd/35yd. . . you get my idea, just mix it up and shoot one at a time. If you have your flinch squelched and you hit your target consistently without wearing out the elbow, then this would be awesome for the confidence levels going into the season knowing you can go out cold and nail it at various yardages and knowing you are not putting extra strain on the elbow. Just some ideas.
I actually heard the same thing at a Larry wise seminar..Sounds good to me!!..But he also said he NEVER shoots at a deer past 30yrds..An if he cant keep every single arrow in a 8inch-ish group..Then thats good to hunt ..Not sure i agree with all that