Oh crap, I thought about deer & it cost me. Are you ever amazed on how well the dark coat of a deer blends in with everything ? Well, I wanted a new pair of insulateds & I got to thinking how well I'd blend in with something of the same color. I went into town & looked at bibs. My old carhartts are over 30 yrs old & as I love them, it's time to retire them. I have a lot of memorable faded blood stains on them. The browns just didn't look right, so I bought a pair of camos. Good luck all !