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Proposed '22/23 Deer Hunting Regs

"J"

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Muzzy season…. 3 days beginning of November. 4 days (like now) in January. 7 days total like gun season week. Just broken up. Once they started the whole September starting deer season, they should bring in a November muzzy season as well.
 
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Clay Showalter

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Muzzy season…. 3 days beginning of November. 4 days (like now) in January. 7 days total like gun season week. Just broken up. Once they started the whole September starting deer season, they should bring in a November muzzy season as well.
You got muzzy in November, now that you are a North Carolina boy. Lol
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The other side of the coin is hunter efficiency. Ban baiting and deer #s will go up without a counteracting change to the # of opportunities we get with a gun.

Not sure about that. Coming from a state that has no baiting, I see alot more natural movement of deer here, because they have to move to eat. In Ohio, I see alot more deer that wait till dark then go feeder hopping taking the easy meals.
 
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There's no mention of reporting any deer killed for testing. :unsure:

I shot 3 deer in Hardin County, during last year's season. However, I was in the S.W. corner of Hardin and according to their CWD map in the Regulation Booklet, the area that I was hunting was NOT included. Oddly enough, I got an e-mail from the ODNR, about 3 weeks after each kill, requesting the head. :rolleyes: I don't know about other hunters, but I always hang on to the dead deer head for a few weeks, in case I get contacted by the ODNR for testing....NOT!!! :ROFLMAO:

All of the deer that I seen and/or killed, during the entire season, were very healthy and showed no signs of a sickness of any kind. 👍💯 If this proposal goes through, I'll be back out there, gettin' after it on September 1st!!! 😎
 

jagermeister

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The same economics that led to the herd reduction tactics, have been inverted, but the same pockets are being fleeced. As deer populations decline, hunters buy enough corn to feed a South American country in their effort to fill their freezers. Baiting is its own industry now and on the whole, gross "deer corn" sales must certainly offset crop damage at this point. The other side of the coin is hunter efficiency. Ban baiting and deer #s will go up without a counteracting change to the # of opportunities we get with a gun.

Just speculation on my part, but it seems plausible in my mind.

Not sure about that. Coming from a state that has no baiting, I see alot more natural movement of deer here, because they have to move to eat. In Ohio, I see alot more deer that wait till dark then go feeder hopping taking the easy meals.
You’re both right.

Without baiting, deer would likely return to more natural patterns of movement and as a result may be just as easy, or easier to kill. But most hunters, unfortunately, aren’t all that sharp… and will more than likely struggle to kill deer without the help of bait, for at least a few years. We are at a point right now where we can’t really afford to reduce the harvest for 2-3 years in a row. In Ohio, if the total annual harvest isn’t 60% antlerless or higher, the population is growing. This past season, that percentage was the lowest it’s been since the mid-90’s. And it’s been the trend for the past couple years. Whether folks believe it or not, the deer population is primed to explode right now.
 
Pa. keeps expanding the CWD areas by 20 miles past the last CWD deer found, whether in the wild or captivity. They try to test every deer in those areas and they also increase antlerless deer tags within those areas. If you use a processor it has to be an approved processor within the CWD zone. You are not allowed to take brain or spinal cord materiel outside the zone either. They want you to process in the zone area and take the head to their dumpster.

How did I learn this? I have a camp that was just outside the zone. Literally when I made a left turn into a gated cow pasture I was outside the zone. But everything on the opposite side of the road was CWD...

In 2019 I shot a 10 point on the Game Lands behind the cow pasture. My camp literally jogs the Game Lands Boundary and the woods behind the pasture.
When you report the kill you put down the TWP you shot it in. Part is CWD and my part wasn't. I took it back home and had a friend who is a deer processor process the animal for me. When I came to pick it up they asked if the Game Warden's were still out in the parking lot digging through his dumpster for my deer head! There were hundreds to dig through, plus the rest of the carcass. I said no they weren't but they later showed up at my home.
I said, "Welcome boys! what took you so long?" Then we had the boarder discussion. I told them if I could go in my house I could pull up OnX and show them exactly where they could find the gut pile, outside by a half mile on the Game Lands behind my camp from the CWD area. They already had it pulled up on their computer. They thanked me for knowing the law and excused themselves from my property. As they were leaving I stopped them and said when they send the deputy down to see the gut pile to pull my Butt Out Tool from the rotten stump and to put it on the porch of my camp for me as I had forgot it there. They laughed and left.

Later, when I went to camp, I expected to see my Butt Out Tool on the porch. It wasn't there so I went down and retrieved it myself...

I did mention to them also that they should have extended through the Game Lands to the Clarion River 5 miles north. The PGC did just that this year...
 
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LonewolfNopack

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The fact that Tonk brought his BFF in to approve his regulations (who by the way has no wildlife biology background) is a conflict of interest among itself. In other words business as usual for brass at DOW.
 

LonewolfNopack

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You’re both right.

Without baiting, deer would likely return to more natural patterns of movement and as a result may be just as easy, or easier to kill. But most hunters, unfortunately, aren’t all that sharp… and will more than likely struggle to kill deer without the help of bait, for at least a few years. We are at a point right now where we can’t really afford to reduce the harvest for 2-3 years in a row. In Ohio, if the total annual harvest isn’t 60% antlerless or higher, the population is growing. This past season, that percentage was the lowest it’s been since the mid-90’s. And it’s been the trend for the past couple years. Whether folks believe it or not, the deer population is primed to explode right now.
I'm sorry but that sounds like a stat made up by tonk and friends and fed to everyone that wants to believe it. I personally get tired of hearing this story. It may be the case in some areas but certainly not most, and one size fits all approach is simply short sighted and taking the easy route. Ten years ago we were told that management would be more managed at a micro level and not county or zone based. That never came to fruition. What ever happened to that? Now the entire state is at the verge of exploding with deer if we don't kill more? Com'n man.
 
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hickslawns

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I'm sorry but that sounds like a stat made up by tonk and friends and fed to everyone that wants to believe it. I personally get tired of hearing this story. It may be the case in some areas but certainly not most, and one size fits all approach is simply short sighted and taking the easy route. Ten years ago we were told that management would be more managed at a micro level and not county or zone based. That never came to fruition. What ever happened to that? Now the entire state is at the verge of exploding with deer if we don't kill more?
I wish it had. We we're increased. If broken down more, we could have a portion of our county and county to our south with a reduced limit and normal for portions of our county not affected. The micro managed areas would be perfect in this scenario.
 
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LonewolfNopack

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Northern Highland is a perfect example. We are surrounded by one deer counties, have the exact same habitat and deer populations, yet we can kill 3x as many deer here. Its a dam joke basing regulation off political boundaries. The deer certainly don't know where one county ends and the others begins, and I can promise we are not at the verge of a population explosion.
 
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