2019-nCoV (Coronavirus)

[bowhunter1023]

how does he feel about his vaccination and mask wearing now?

I haven't talked with him directly, but I suspect he'll say it could have been worse without it. He's a middle-of-the-road D, but a D nonetheless.

 

[Jackalope]

Yep its a different virus now

Thankfully all the data shows that the Delta variant while far more contagious is far less deadly... Or so it appears. There is a lot there to unpack as most of the vulnerable population has received the vaccination. As such there will be a lot less deaths. Being more contagious more young people are getting it, as such their hospital numbers rise over previous waves.. So the judge is still out on impact. The UK has been getting ravaged by delta for months and it hasn't shown to be a huge deal for hospitalizations and deaths, they actually lifted the mask mandate a couple weeks ago. So who knows right now.

 

[Geezer II]

Thankfully all the data shows that the Delta variant while far more contagious is far less deadly... Or so it appears. There is a lot there to unpack as most of the vulnerable population has received the vaccination. As such there will be a lot less deaths. Being more contagious more young people are getting it, as such their hospital numbers rise over previous waves.. So the judge is still out on impact. The UK has been getting ravaged by delta for months and it hasn't shown to be a huge deal for hospitalizations and deaths, they actually lifted the mask mandate a couple weeks ago. So who knows right now.

Yep - media playing "see saw" with the virus - every day they bla bla blaaa with no useful information k- too many cooks stir n the pot - making a contest out of it - dang

 

[Jackalope]

Here's what I think is going to happen.

They have given us a taste of freedom again. "See how nice it is to get back to normal"
Then it'll be "discovered" that vaccinated people are getting infected at an alarming rate.
BUT instead of admitting the vaccines ineffectiveness at preventing infection and transmission, they're going to blame the people who didn't take the vaccine for making everyone else sick or altering the virus.
They'll reinstitute closures, lockkdowns, and "safety" measures for everyone.
They'll blame the "unvaccinated" and grow anger, resentment and hate towards them. "I did what I was supposed to, You're selfish and this is your fault"
They'll pressure private employers to force employees to get vaccinated by threatening their livelihood. They'll protect those businesses by throwing out lawsuits.
They'll encourage business to refuse to serve unvaccinated individuals and refusing to hear legal discrimination cases.
They'll push to vaccinate your children in schools and say that you're abusing your child by refusing.

Who knows where it goes from there.. But I will say. Never surrender your arms, and never get on the train car.

 

[Geezer II]

Here's what I think is going to happen.

They have given us a taste of freedom again. "See how nice it is to get back to normal"
Then it'll be "discovered" that vaccinated people are getting infected at an alarming rate.
BUT instead of admitting the vaccines ineffectiveness at preventing infection and transmission, they're going to blame the people who didn't take the vaccine for making everyone else sick or altering the virus.
They'll reinstitute closures, lockkdowns, and "safety" measures for everyone.
They'll blame the "unvaccinated" and grow anger, resentment and hate towards them. "I did what I was supposed to, You're selfish and this is your fault"
They'll pressure private employers to force employees to get vaccinated by threatening their livelihood. They'll protect those businesses by throwing out lawsuits.
They'll encourage business to refuse to serve unvaccinated individuals and refusing to hear legal discrimination cases.
They'll push to vaccinate your children in schools and say that you're abusing your child by refusing.

Who knows where it goes from there.. But I will say. Never surrender your arms, and never get on the train car.

You forgot thousands of deaths -

 

[OhioWhiteTails]

You forgot thousands of deaths -

More will die from smoking. He didn't forget anything.

 

[Big_Holla]

Yep the pressure from employers will be the big thing. My daughter just got notice at the hospital she works at.

 

[Jackalope]

You forgot thousands of deaths -

People are going to die from covid for a long long time to come. Just as the flu has been killing people for a long long time, and will continue to for the foreseeable future. It's time that the powers that be ripped off the truth bandaid and said "This is here to stay. If we're lucky to live to old age, it will be one of the things that contributes to our death"

Covid isn't going away. Just as the common cold isn't going away. Accommodations will have to be made for those with health issues and a therapeutic booster regiment established for those who want it. We can't eradicate something with a vaccine if we're still able to become infected by it, or if it can adapt. Just like we haven't eradicated the flu. Look at polio, there hasn't been a single case that originated in the US since 1979. Because the vaccine gives real immunity and creates a transmission barrier so it eventually died out. The cold which is a common coronavirus mutates, the flu mutates, Covid-19 mutates. The current therapeutic vaccine for covid offers hope, and has saved countless lives, it's also destroyed a great number. But the end justifies the means right. Greater good type thing

 

[Geezer II]

People are going to die from covid for a long long time to come. Just as the flu has been killing people for a long long time, and will continue to for the foreseeable future. It's time that the powers that be ripped off the truth bandaid and said "This is here to stay. If we're lucky to live to old age, it will be one of the things that contributes to our death"

Covid isn't going away. Just as the common cold isn't going away. Accommodations will have to be made for those with health issues and a therapeutic booster regiment established for those who want it. We can't eradicate something with a vaccine if we're still able to become infected by it, or if it can adapt. Just like we haven't eradicated the flu. Look at polio, there hasn't been a single case that originated in the US since 197 9. Because the vaccine gives real immunity and creates a transmission barrier so it eventually died out. The cold which is a common coronavirus mutates, the flu mutates, Covid-19 mutates. The current therapeutic vaccine for covid offers hope, and has saved countless lives, it's also destroyed a great number. But the end justifies the means right. Greater good type thing

IDK - agree - world wide pandemic compounds everything - maybe your kids will see a true vaccine like the polio vaccine in their lifetime - hope sooner - I was early on with the polio vaccine - whole town marched thru the gym and got a sugar cube with the oral vaccine - don't remember a big resistance to the vaccine - just trusted the science i guess - but we didn't have the information network like today - shit i never thought about it I took my sugar cube and moved on - different times

 

[Jackalope]

Don;t worry though guys. Ole Joe had this to say yesterday.. and it took him 25 seconds to say it.

 

[Big_Holla]

The Machine hard at work....

 

[Jackalope]

IDK - agree - world wide pandemic compounds everything - maybe your kids will see a true vaccine like the polio vaccine in their lifetime - hope sooner - I was early on with the polio vaccine - whole town marched thru the gym and got a sugar cube with the oral vaccine - don't remember a big resistance to the vaccine - just trusted the science i guess - but we didn't have the information network like today - shit i never thought about it I took my sugar cube and moved on - different times

Yeah barring a Nobel peace prize winning breakthrough in medical science the best they can do is chase the spike protien mutations and continue to make therapeutic injections that lessen severity. Ongoing booster shots for everyone.

 

[Snyder10]

Couple “odd” occurrences thought I’d share. Came back from a salmon fishing trip a few weeks ago. Every single one of us (even the ones that didn’t tag along) woke up Monday morning sick. Body aches, headaches, slight fever, etc. 4 of the 7 had been vaccinated and had the symptoms all week, the other 3 kicked it in about 8 hours…thought it was weird

I don’t know a single Unvaccinated person who’s tested positive for covid in months. I now know of multiple people who’ve tested positive that have received the vaccine. What about that 2%?

My wife’s hospital today told them to “brace for the 3rd wave” and to “have all 8 covid floors ready”

Again…all odd to me

 

[giles]

Couple “odd” occurrences thought I’d share. Came back from a salmon fishing trip a few weeks ago. Every single one of us (even the ones that didn’t tag along) woke up Monday morning sick. Body aches, headaches, slight fever, etc. 4 of the 7 had been vaccinated and had the symptoms all week, the other 3 kicked it in about 8 hours…thought it was weird

I don’t know a single Unvaccinated person who’s tested positive for covid in months. I now know of multiple people who’ve tested positive that have received the vaccine. What about that 2%?

My wife’s hospital today told them to “brace for the 3rd wave” and to “have all 8 covid floors ready”

Again…all odd to me

Same odds I'm seeing. Everyone testing positive has the vaccine. The spike in strokes and blood clots is alarming. I don't think growing older has everything to do with it.

 

[Mike]

 

[brock ratcliff]

Every time I open this rotten thread I immediately wash my hands... again.

 

[Jackalope]

Just spend a little time reading. Remember these people have zero legal recourse.

How concerned are you about adverse events related to the vaccines?

www.medscape.com

 

[Big_Holla]

 

[Big_Holla]

 

[Boarhead]