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Jackalope

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So Joe what would you say if OSU makes the playoff and then goes on to win both games to be the Champions. Will you still hold onto your they don't deserve it mantra?

I do not know if they belong or not because I have not watched enough games this year.

Yes I will because 1. They had no reason being there in the first place because they didn't even play a full season and forfeited the first 4 games. 2 I don't believe the playoff system shows who is best. There's far too much human bias. Play those 4 teams 4 times and you'll likely see different results. Remove human bias, rank teams over the entirety of the season based on strngth of schedule, yards, completion percentages, time of possession, scores and other stats and then play the top two for the title. Oh wait, we used to do that, it was called the BCS. If OSU did go on to win it would be like someone who started at the half way point in a marathon crossing the finish line first and somehow claiming they won. Fucker you didn't even run the first half. 😅.
 

Jackalope

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Eight team playoff!!!!

Why not?

Sure. Let's just take one team from each conference and make it a super playoff, at the end everyone can get a trophy and orange slices and fans can sit around stroking each other off like their team actually accomplished something. Even better, let's just remove all regular season accomplishments and requirements and go with the teams that bring in the most viewers that way they can sell more tshirts.

Remove human bias, let the full season stats speak for themselves, and play the top two.
 

giles

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Since when did playoffs become about longevity? Its about a game between the best of the best. Be like penalizing a team for not playing first string all season.
 

Quantum673

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The number of games played has next to nothing to do with how good a team is. The only factor it really plays is injuries. If the team is the best they will go 7-0, 9-0, or 13-0 however many games are on their schedule.
 
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The number of games played has next to nothing to do with how good a team is. The only factor it really plays is injuries. If the team is the best they will go 7-0, 9-0, or 13-0 however many games are on their schedule.

Using that reasoning then a 6 loss team who played a full season shouldn't be disqualified right. Lose them or never played them should count the same. They should be allowed to delete those losses and just claim the games they won. If Ohio state is even considered with only 6-8 games then all of those other team's should be allowed to choose their best 6-8 games to be judged by also. It's incredibly unfair to penalize a team who plays a full season for losses but then turn around and not penalize teams who never even played a full season.
 

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Tell a boxer he can't fight for the belt because he doesn't have enough minutes of fighting. Psh

More like telling a boxer he can't fight for the belt because he sat home on his ass eating Cheetos while all the other boxers fought.
 

giles

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Using that reasoning then a 6 loss team who played a full season shouldn't be disqualified right. Lose them or never played them should count the same. They should be allowed to delete those losses and just claim the games they won. If Ohio state is even considered with only 6-8 games then all of those other team's should be allowed to choose their best 6-8 games to be judged by also. It's incredibly unfair to penalize a team who plays a full season for losses but then turn around and not penalize teams who never even played a full season.
Kind of like how essential workers got screwed all this year?
 

Jackalope

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Like the champion does?

No like somebody who beats up a couple chumps then stays home half the season but demands a shot at the belt like they earned it.

If we arent going to penalize OSU for only playing half a season then we shouldn't penalize any of the 4-6 loss teams who played a full season.
 

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Kind of like how essential workers got screwed all this year?

Ah but see the difference is OSU and the Big 10 made a choice. Choices should have repercussions, especially when they're being compared to teams who played a full season.
 

giles

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Like I said. I just want a shot at the Irish. With that will come lots of hate chatter. As buckeye fans, we are used to it and hearing about what we don't deserve.
 

Quantum673

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Using that reasoning then a 6 loss team who played a full season shouldn't be disqualified right. Lose them or never played them should count the same. They should be allowed to delete those losses and just claim the games they won. If Ohio state is even considered with only 6-8 games then all of those other team's should be allowed to choose their best 6-8 games to be judged by also. It's incredibly unfair to penalize a team who plays a full season for losses but then turn around and not penalize teams who never even played a full season.

Come on this is a stretch for even you.

Those teams lost games to teams they played. As of right now OSU has not lost a game played and we have no way of knowing if they would have lost the games they haven't played.

Like I said I don't know if they deserve to make it or not. To say it is OSU's fault though, is a little bit of a stretch. If it wasn't for Nebraska and OSU they wouldn't be playing right now. Not the president's but the athletic department, players, and families. It is the Big10's fault. There is no excuse for them not being able to play a full conference schedule if others were able to.

I am willing to bet that if the SEC would have made the same decision as the BIG10 this would not be a discussion.
 
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Come on this is a stretch for even you.

Those teams lost games to teams they played. As of right now OSU has not lost a game played and we have no way of knowing if they would have lost the games they haven't played.

Like I said I don't know if they deserve to make it or not. To say it is OSU's fault though, is a little bit of a stretch. If it wasn't for Nebraska and OSU they wouldn't be playing right now. Not the president's but the athletic department, players, and families. It is the Big10's fault. There is no excuse for them not being able to play a full conference schedule if others were able to.

I am willing to bet that if the SEC would have made the same decision as the BIG10 this would not be a discussion.

It would be a discussion. Any team that sat out half the season doesn't belong in the playoffs with teams who did, even if those teams have a couple of losses. Choosing ahead of the season not to play should be looked at the same as a loss or a forfeit. We even have teams rescheduling games that we're canceled earlier. If they go on to play that game and lose, should they be penalized?i don't think so because we have another team over there who choose not to even play for half a season but think they still deserve a playoff spot. At least those other teams showed up to play. At least those other team's scheduled a full season. Even if they lost one or two they should be in over the guys that sat at home and never even tried.
 

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Michigan is not expected to play this Saturday by those inside the program. Currently down to one healthy QB on the roster. That's not even taking into account all the other players out with covid
 

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Like I said. I just want a shot at the Irish. With that will come lots of hate chatter. As buckeye fans, we are used to it and hearing about what we don't deserve.

That's why we have seasons, with schedules, want to play them, put it on the schedule in a few years and play the game in season. Maybe if OSU did more of that instead of beating up Michigan for the 16th time in a row then acting like it's an accomplishment people might actually believe the hype.
 

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Like I said. I just want a shot at the Irish. With that will come lots of hate chatter. As buckeye fans, we are used to it and hearing about what we don't deserve.

That's why we have seasons, with schedules, want to play them, put it on the schedule in a few years and play the game in season. Maybe if OSU did more of that instead of beating up Michigan for the 16th time in a row then acting like it's an accomplishment people might actually believe the hype.